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11-09-2010, 05:48 PM   #46
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QuoteOriginally posted by falconeye Quote
That's going nowhere as the initiative is driven as it is now.

We should stick to suggestions which are both:
  • Minimal (easy to implement, not a major standalone wish)
  • Undebated (everybody agrees)
There you have it, folks. The OP is wrong, because Falk said so.


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If this is an option, I don't see why we'd need consensus. The K-7 did it and I believe had the option to turn it off. I liked that a lot and miss it on the K-5.
The issue isn't just clear for me.

Autorotation on playback and autoration on image preview was linked on the K-7. If you switched off one, you switched off the other as well.

E.g., I always wanted autoration on image preview and never liked autorotation on playback. Autorotation on playback is silly: if an image is portrait, it first shows in small and only after you turn the camera, does it fill the screen. However, on image preview I don't want to turn the camera because I prepare for the next shot.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Parallax Quote
There you have it, folks. The OP is wrong, because Falk said so.
I thought a bit if I should impose myself this much. I was sure it would offend some. OTOH, I can voice my opinion just like everyone else, can't I?

Of course, I don't say the OP is wrong.

I only want to help to make an initiative where every idea anyone ever comes up with (which is a good thing), into a short list of suggestions to Pentax.

So, I suggested to shorten the list and made a first proposal. I added some minus signs as well as plus signs and hope others will join the initiative to keep the list manageable.


Nobody is wrong because I say so. I don't even wish it were so. I'm glad you jumped in.

OTOH, if the list is short enough and compelling enough, I can endorse it and communicate to Pentax. So, it may be understandable why I tried to give unwanted advice here.
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You are most certainly welcome to voice your opinion, it just comes across better if you don't do so in a manner that seems to suggest that others don't.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Parallax Quote
You are most certainly welcome to voice your opinion, it just comes across better if you don't do so in a manner that seems to suggest that others don't.
That's always true.

However, that others aren't welcome to voice their opinion is your personal opinion (which I appreciate). Sure, writing "That's going nowhere as the initiative is driven as it is now." is bold. But a forum isn't an ambassador's meeting. I'm sure you wouldn't have made your comment if somebody else would have said it. Everybody else just disagrees as usual.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Parallax Quote
... it just comes across better if you don't do so in a manner that seems to suggest that others don't.
You didn't exactly mince your words in your previous post either, did you?

I thought was Falk wrote was reasonable. He simply suggested that if the approach isn't changed, the exercise won't have a any real world impact and gave his input. I found this valuable.

He might have chosen to be slightly more diplomatic but I don't see how he attacked or offended anyone.
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Found another one on DPReview : in SEL AF mode, revert to focus point selection on half-press.

This way, you always know how to enter the Fn mode : a long press on OK.

I found this sharing of the OK button a little awkward...
Great idea. I'd love that.
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I can forward firmware wishlists to Pentax. But this isn't going to become one.
You are always free to send to Pentax whatever you think makes sense. I'll probably run this thread until the upcoming firmware is out. Then I'll make a list of which things are both popular and sensible (taking your notes into account), and ask Adam to send it to Pentax.

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[*]12mbit RAW setting (2x)
+ for 12 Bit (what is 12mbit?)
A typo : )

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[*]Allow the movie mode in the USER menu
- (I see conflict with the above, you'll need the mode dial)
I don't see why there would be a conflict. You can map, say, Av to a USER mode, so why not movie mode?


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[*]Mirror lock-up separated from the 2 sec. timer
- already there on hardware supporting this
Could you elaborate? If this already exists then there is no reason for it be on this list.

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and my own wish:
  • Real focus bracketing
    - NM
  • Automatic selection of the sharpest shot from a burst or series
    - NM
  • Numeric/visual live display of a contrast value for a focus region in LV
    - NM
I did not add these, as by your own admission you think they are not viable.

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- Option to enable autorotation during playback (that is seperated from the option to record rotation data) (2x)
I've changed the wording of this entry. I don't think anyone meant anything else.
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I don't see why there would be a conflict. You can map, say, Av to a USER mode, so why not movie mode?

Could you elaborate? If this already exists then there is no reason for it be on this list.
The conflict is with the request for manual control in video.
This is best implemented by making video a drive mode (like the K20D had) and as such, could be mapped to a user mode too. Just like bracketing. Which is different from mapping the current video mode to a user mode.

Standalone MLU is a feature for the K-7 and K-5.
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Another suggestion for the Fx button - quick multi-shot (Based on predefined menu settings).
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Standalone MLU is a feature for the K-7 and K-5.
I just checked my K-5 and you are quite right, I'll remove this from the list.
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Another suggestion for the Fx button - quick multi-shot (Based on predefined menu settings).
Could you elaborate? I'm not sure what you mean by this.
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Mirror lock-up for bracketing shots.
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second curtain synch with manual lenses

Is it too late to send in wish list?

I use second curtain synch mostly on any slow shutter speed. The synch signal should trigg any type of flash (center pin on hot shoe). The camera does have info about the shutter speed.

And an option for fine adjustment of synch time:

Shutter speed (duration) and synch signal:
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Fine adjustment of synch signal:
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I do like the p-ttl ability with manual lenses.
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