Switching from K10D to K-5

cem.kumuk · 11-16-2010, 06:44 AM

Finally I bought my K-5 and became the first K-5 owner in Turkey. I know this because K-5 have not arrived yet in Turkish market and I bought mine from Germany. Since 5 days I'm trying to get used to my new K-5. After using K10D using K-5 sounds a little strange. From the point of AF there is no doubt that K-5 is A class body. However, I still could not get used to Aparture, ISO and curtain speed preferences in aparture priority shootings. I'm sure I'll get used to it in a short time but franly speaking my old K10D which stays with me as second body is my first choice for photos where I do not want to risk of being new in K-5.

I'll be glad to receive advices from people who had similar feelings like mine after getting K-5 in hand for the first time.

Boris · 11-16-2010, 07:17 AM

I had very similar experience going from K10D to K-7, which as I understand has 99% the same control layout as K-5. That is, I had my share of ergonomic/operational quirks that even made me write an entry in my blog on the matter. K10D is still in the family, more than a year after K-7 was bought.

I hope you'd enjoy your new camera and show us wonderful pictures from it.

Itai · 11-16-2010, 07:20 AM

Get rid of the K10D.... Getting used to the K-5 will require this. Because of the control layout, particularly
if you are used to working quickly with the camera at eye-level.

I had a K20D and went to the K-7 which is the same external change as K10D to K-5 and it drove
me crazy. I was planning to use the K20D as backup but instead got a second K-7. Now I have the
K-5 and K-7 but those work the same way.

Your K-5 may have come with different defaults than your K10D. Both have customizable control-dials,
so use the menu to set them to your liking. After that you can get the dials for Aperture, ISO and shutter-
speed to work identically on both. You cannot use the menu system to move the EC button though

Have fun with your new camera!

- Itai

Boris · 11-16-2010, 07:23 AM

Originally posted by Itai

Get rid of the K10D....

I respectfully disagree here, but that would take this thread way off the original topic.

Itai · 11-16-2010, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by Boris

I respectfully disagree here, but that would take this thread way off the original topic.

Sure! Notice I did not say anything negative about the K10D... I actually preferred its body layout... only that it was different. I work very fast and I like to use all the buttons without looking at them (to me that was the number on Pentax advantage), having the EC and Green button swapped meant that when switching bodies I would often do the wrong thing and missed some shots. That's all.

- Itai

cem.kumuk · 11-16-2010, 08:19 AM

It may not be the right place to ask for a photo critique but site moderation directs all issues related to K-5 under this topic. If I may receive some constructive critiques about my first shots with my new K-5 to draw my attention to possible fundemental errors, I'll appreciate very much.
All exif data arae available except HDR ones. HDR frames are made of 3 shots +-2 ev stops in between each. All photos are taken in RAW formatand coverted to JPEG after processed by PS CS5 Camera RAW.

Mystic · 11-16-2010, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by cem.kumuk

It may not be the right place to ask for a photo critique but site moderation directs all issues related to K-5 under this topic. If I may receive some constructive critiques about my first shots with my new K-5 to draw my attention to possible fundemental errors, I'll appreciate very much.
All exif data arae available except HDR ones. HDR frames are made of 3 shots +-2 ev stops in between each. All photos are taken in RAW formatand coverted to JPEG after processed by PS CS5 Camera RAW.

the compositions of the shots are good, but overall they are a little overdone (too much pp) especially the one with pigeons, at least to my taste.. although the last one looks good.

eddie1960 · 11-16-2010, 09:49 AM

I like the compositions as well, but not being an HDR fan i find them a little to PP for my taste. Was this the in camera HDR or PS

FunkyMonk · 11-16-2010, 11:02 AM

I have my camera set up on Program mode with the ISO set on AUTO up to 3200. You can change the shot however you want to from Program mode by changing aperture and shutter speed settings.

cem.kumuk · 11-16-2010, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by eddie1960

I like the compositions as well, but not being an HDR fan i find them a little to PP for my taste. Was this the in camera HDR or PS

HDR is made of 3 frames with +-2 ev stops in between with Photomatix pro3 software

philbaum · 11-16-2010, 01:36 PM

cem.kumuk,
great compositions, and i like HDR so enjoyed the results as well. I think HDR allows one to put more of an individual stamp onto their images, IMO.

The bird image, although a great composition, was my least favorite as far as colors and toning.

my ulitmate test, is whether i would enjoy having a particular picture on a wall at home. The first and last in the series fit that category for me.

have fun with your K5

cem.kumuk · 11-17-2010, 01:24 AM

Originally posted by philbaum

cem.kumuk,
great compositions, and i like HDR so enjoyed the results as well. I think HDR allows one to put more of an individual stamp onto their images, IMO.

The bird image, although a great composition, was my least favorite as far as colors and toning.

my ulitmate test, is whether i would enjoy having a particular picture on a wall at home. The first and last in the series fit that category for me.

have fun with your K5

Thanks a lot Phil, I fully agree with you. The first one is my favorite as well. Tough I liked the composition of the frame of the birds, overall performance did not satisfy me at all either. You know, when you have a new camera in your hand, you want to shoot every possible frame to see different results. That's what I'm doing actually

I'm sure I'll make very awkward frames besides nice ones until I get used to my new K-5. But I'll not hesitate to share even awkward ones here cos I'm sure the community here is always mature enough to make constructive critics like yours.

Boris · 11-17-2010, 02:29 AM

Originally posted by cem.kumuk

It may not be the right place to ask for a photo critique but site moderation directs all issues related to K-5 under this topic. If I may receive some constructive critiques about my first shots with my new K-5 to draw my attention to possible fundemental errors, I'll appreciate very much.
All exif data arae available except HDR ones. HDR frames are made of 3 shots +-2 ev stops in between each. All photos are taken in RAW formatand coverted to JPEG after processed by PS CS5 Camera RAW.

It is pretty difficult to assess your camera operation given that your photos are obviously processed. As for the views themselves - I quite like them. No fundamental errors that I could spot except that I'd like to see some if not most of these shots with minimal or even no processing at all, as this is my personal preference - minimal processing.

11-16-2010, 06:44 AM	#1
cem.kumuk Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Istanbul Photos: Gallery Posts: 241	Switching from K10D to K-5 Finally I bought my K-5 and became the first K-5 owner in Turkey. I know this because K-5 have not arrived yet in Turkish market and I bought mine from Germany. Since 5 days I'm trying to get used to my new K-5. After using K10D using K-5 sounds a little strange. From the point of AF there is no doubt that K-5 is A class body. However, I still could not get used to Aparture, ISO and curtain speed preferences in aparture priority shootings. I'm sure I'll get used to it in a short time but franly speaking my old K10D which stays with me as second body is my first choice for photos where I do not want to risk of being new in K-5. I'll be glad to receive advices from people who had similar feelings like mine after getting K-5 in hand for the first time.

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11-16-2010, 07:17 AM	#2
Boris Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Israel Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 932	I had very similar experience going from K10D to K-7, which as I understand has 99% the same control layout as K-5. That is, I had my share of ergonomic/operational quirks that even made me write an entry in my blog on the matter. K10D is still in the family, more than a year after K-7 was bought. I hope you'd enjoy your new camera and show us wonderful pictures from it.

11-16-2010, 07:20 AM	#3
Itai Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Montreal Photos: Gallery Posts: 209	Get rid of the K10D.... Getting used to the K-5 will require this. Because of the control layout, particularly if you are used to working quickly with the camera at eye-level. I had a K20D and went to the K-7 which is the same external change as K10D to K-5 and it drove me crazy. I was planning to use the K20D as backup but instead got a second K-7. Now I have the K-5 and K-7 but those work the same way. Your K-5 may have come with different defaults than your K10D. Both have customizable control-dials, so use the menu to set them to your liking. After that you can get the dials for Aperture, ISO and shutter- speed to work identically on both. You cannot use the menu system to move the EC button though Have fun with your new camera! - Itai

11-16-2010, 07:23 AM	#4
Boris Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Israel Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 932	Originally posted by Itai Get rid of the K10D.... I respectfully disagree here, but that would take this thread way off the original topic.

11-16-2010, 08:11 AM	#5
Itai Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Montreal Photos: Gallery Posts: 209	Originally posted by Boris I respectfully disagree here, but that would take this thread way off the original topic. Sure! Notice I did not say anything negative about the K10D... I actually preferred its body layout... only that it was different. I work very fast and I like to use all the buttons without looking at them (to me that was the number on Pentax advantage), having the EC and Green button swapped meant that when switching bodies I would often do the wrong thing and missed some shots. That's all. - Itai

11-16-2010, 08:19 AM	#6
cem.kumuk Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Istanbul Photos: Gallery Posts: 241 Original Poster	It may not be the right place to ask for a photo critique but site moderation directs all issues related to K-5 under this topic. If I may receive some constructive critiques about my first shots with my new K-5 to draw my attention to possible fundemental errors, I'll appreciate very much. All exif data arae available except HDR ones. HDR frames are made of 3 shots +-2 ev stops in between each. All photos are taken in RAW formatand coverted to JPEG after processed by PS CS5 Camera RAW.

11-16-2010, 09:44 AM	#7
Mystic Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Lithuania Photos: Gallery Posts: 490	Originally posted by cem.kumuk It may not be the right place to ask for a photo critique but site moderation directs all issues related to K-5 under this topic. If I may receive some constructive critiques about my first shots with my new K-5 to draw my attention to possible fundemental errors, I'll appreciate very much. All exif data arae available except HDR ones. HDR frames are made of 3 shots +-2 ev stops in between each. All photos are taken in RAW formatand coverted to JPEG after processed by PS CS5 Camera RAW. the compositions of the shots are good, but overall they are a little overdone (too much pp) especially the one with pigeons, at least to my taste.. although the last one looks good.

11-16-2010, 09:49 AM	#8
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,667	I like the compositions as well, but not being an HDR fan i find them a little to PP for my taste. Was this the in camera HDR or PS

11-16-2010, 11:02 AM	#9
FunkyMonk Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Alexander City, AL Photos: Gallery Posts: 67	I have my camera set up on Program mode with the ISO set on AUTO up to 3200. You can change the shot however you want to from Program mode by changing aperture and shutter speed settings.

11-16-2010, 11:11 AM	#10
cem.kumuk Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Istanbul Photos: Gallery Posts: 241 Original Poster	Originally posted by eddie1960 I like the compositions as well, but not being an HDR fan i find them a little to PP for my taste. Was this the in camera HDR or PS HDR is made of 3 frames with +-2 ev stops in between with Photomatix pro3 software

11-16-2010, 01:36 PM	#11
philbaum Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Port Townsend, Washington State, USA Posts: 3,659	cem.kumuk, great compositions, and i like HDR so enjoyed the results as well. I think HDR allows one to put more of an individual stamp onto their images, IMO. The bird image, although a great composition, was my least favorite as far as colors and toning. my ulitmate test, is whether i would enjoy having a particular picture on a wall at home. The first and last in the series fit that category for me. have fun with your K5

11-17-2010, 01:24 AM	#12
cem.kumuk Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Istanbul Photos: Gallery Posts: 241 Original Poster	Originally posted by philbaum cem.kumuk, great compositions, and i like HDR so enjoyed the results as well. I think HDR allows one to put more of an individual stamp onto their images, IMO. The bird image, although a great composition, was my least favorite as far as colors and toning. my ulitmate test, is whether i would enjoy having a particular picture on a wall at home. The first and last in the series fit that category for me. have fun with your K5 Thanks a lot Phil, I fully agree with you. The first one is my favorite as well. Tough I liked the composition of the frame of the birds, overall performance did not satisfy me at all either. You know, when you have a new camera in your hand, you want to shoot every possible frame to see different results. That's what I'm doing actually I'm sure I'll make very awkward frames besides nice ones until I get used to my new K-5. But I'll not hesitate to share even awkward ones here cos I'm sure the community here is always mature enough to make constructive critics like yours.

11-17-2010, 02:29 AM	#13
Boris Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Israel Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 932	Originally posted by cem.kumuk It may not be the right place to ask for a photo critique but site moderation directs all issues related to K-5 under this topic. If I may receive some constructive critiques about my first shots with my new K-5 to draw my attention to possible fundemental errors, I'll appreciate very much. All exif data arae available except HDR ones. HDR frames are made of 3 shots +-2 ev stops in between each. All photos are taken in RAW formatand coverted to JPEG after processed by PS CS5 Camera RAW. It is pretty difficult to assess your camera operation given that your photos are obviously processed. As for the views themselves - I quite like them. No fundamental errors that I could spot except that I'd like to see some if not most of these shots with minimal or even no processing at all, as this is my personal preference - minimal processing.