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12-07-2010, 08:27 AM   #61
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QuoteOriginally posted by NightPorter Quote
It seems I was the first one who addressed the cmos has some dirt marks (stain) in the beginning in this forum and it could not be cleaned
But somebodies did not realised this is truth in this forum.
Now more and more stain cmos complaints are coming:ugh:
What are they thinking now?
Hi!

I admit that we have been rather harsh at the beginning, when you posted your thread.
However, I do believe that you had a very good argument regarding "stains" and that almost no one, including myself, thought that this was an issue.

Then, just recently, a member of this forum posted this:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-5-forum/125009-stains-your-k5d-sensor-poll.html

You nailed right on when you started this thread!

Cheers!

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???

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Troll??
Please excuse my internet lingo ignorance, but what is a "Troll"?

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12-07-2010, 09:16 AM   #63
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QuoteOriginally posted by telfish Quote
This isn't a bad cmos situation it's just some bloody dust! Get the dealer to exchange it if you must and don't take any other answer. Solved.


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I don't have a problem My K5 is fine.

I just hate it when people jump to conclusions and diagnose something completely incorrectly, then instead of asking for an exchange as any realistic person would, instead come on forums like this and whine about the issue and call it a sensor problem when its dust.

Rant over.

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Splodge, right in the center of the frame. DOH!

Now you look really stupid don't you. - but don't worry. It's only dust
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Thanks for your understanding

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QuoteOriginally posted by NightPorter Quote
Thanks for your understanding
If your sarcastic 'roll eyes' were aimed at me, I'm actually on your side. I was commenting on the other poster called 'tellfish' who steamed in dissing you and then found he had the same problem with his K-5 and subsequently made himself look stupid. He should really come back and apologise to you.

I'll stick to a positive note and assume you didn't read or follow my previous post properly.
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To be fair, the images the OP posted looked like dust, or something a wet clean would have taken care of.
Far too often, I've read of "issues" with cameras which 9 times out of ten boil down to user incompetence or similar, so it's really no surprise that this one was initially treated as the boy who cried wolf.

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Please excuse my internet lingo ignorance, but what is a "Troll"?

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Read posts 63 and 65.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Wheatfield Quote
To be fair, the images the OP posted looked like dust, or something a wet clean would have taken care of..
Not all looked like dust

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Thanks for your understanding
Actually your description of the rather weird salesperson behaviour made me think this was not really an issue .... I even thought of one persone exchanging the camera and selling the "blotched one"on to the next buyer, My apologies,,,

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Not all looked like dust
I suppose you inspected every single speck that was posted?
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what is a "Troll"?
Troll
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QuoteOriginally posted by Smeggypants Quote
Now you look really stupid don't you. - but don't worry. It's only dust
Well in defense it is dust as Falk proved when he looked at my files.

The OP described this as a "Bad Cmos problem" it is not a bad cmos (sensor) problem it's a trapped dust problem. The sensor is fine. To describe it as a bad cmos problem was and is inaccurate.

The question at that time was is it on the surface and cleanable or is it deeper and not cleanable. My thoughts at the time were try cleaning it and if it will not go away get an exchange, seems reasonable.

Of course smeggy with the benefit of 100% hindsight vision wades in and throws around the insults. Thank you very much.

I am willing to believe people who take the trouble to test and research an issue BEFORE bleating to the world on the internet. Having said that the OP was right and I acknowledge that.


The OP did go off half cocked in bleating on the forum when he should have been pursuing an exchange with his dealer.
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funny the way this thread turned out
i also think telfish should apologise,but that will never happen.
treating new members that way is not what pentax forums is about.

so glad i didnt buy a k-5....yet

lol still no sorry
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I did not say this

"Troll"

I did not say this.

"I´m sorry, I can´t believe in a guy with that kind of haircut... :P"

All I did was offer advice in a straightforward way. The advice was clean it and if it don't clean get to your dealer and ask for an exchange and don't take no for an answer.

I guess I was wrong because that's exactly what happened subsequently.

When I looked deeper into the issue and tested my camera at f32 I did find some marks. I ordered a deep cleaning kit and intended to try cleaning before asking for a replacement. In the mean time Falk worked on 4 of my files and did an analysis which proved that the marks were sub surface and therefore not cleanable. A replacement is on it's way.


Thank you NightPorter for bringing this to our attention. I am sorry if I was harsh.

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I suppose you inspected every single speck that was posted?
Just the OP's one and it did have "the string"
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AAHHHH, now I understand.

Theank u.

I meant to spell it that way. I say it (genuinely, btw) like 'Stanley' says it to the guys on the movie 'Friday' after he asks them to stay off his grass.

My hope is to reach someone with a little humor... not meant in any way to sound indifferent to those with the sensor problems, or those who think those with the sensor problems don't really have sensor problems, or to those who don't like those who don't think those other's really have sensor problems...

Sorry... Been reading DP*&view forums. It's ugly over there...

Thanks Falconeye...
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