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falconeye · 12-06-2010, 08:42 AM

I looked at my K-7 and K-5 now ...

Both my cameras have a number of particles. Some seem to sit on another layer, judging from the umbra/penumbra diameters. So, I guess, a singular dust particle every some and then is unavoidable.

What is different with my K-5 (and the other images I see) is that there is a string of particles (in the upper left quadrant) which other cameras probably don't have.

So, it isn't the stains as such which are the problem, but the string of stains. I marked the stain position (red) in the attached image. As I said, the random stains don't look too different from my K-7.

My K-5 serial is 3830XXX (btw, are there already non 38XXXXX serials out there?).

Last edited by falconeye; 06-23-2012 at 03:11 AM.

**dadipentak** · 12-06-2010, 08:51 AM

That helps to put things in perspective, Falk.

As an FYI, The shop where I bought my K-5 has offered to clean the sensor and I'll take them up on the offer tomorrow.

Based on Falk's analysis and other reports here, I'm doubtful that will resolve the issue but it's worth a try and even failure will be a success if it serves to validate the issue to Pentax via a retailer.

Can I say I'm really glad I made this purchase through a brick & mortar shop?

MrPetkus · 12-06-2010, 10:12 AM

No offense taken. The K7 is a great camera. In a studio or on set the only advantages of the K5 over the K7 are ISO 80 and the additional resolution. In that application I certainly could have continued with my K7 for years more.

However, now that I've used the K5, I'm completely spoiled by the high-ISO performance...

Originally posted by Boris

No offense or other ill intent, but I am thinking that professional consistency is exact opposite of impulsiveness... Just a thought for you to ponder.

I am starting to think that I will not be getting K-5. I am reasonably content with K-7 although I know that I could enjoy K-5, I can still use K-7 may be even until Pentax introduces yet another flagship camera after K-5. I still have those gigs for my daughter to shoot and I am no pro by any meaningful measure.

RonHendriks1966 · 12-06-2010, 10:19 AM

The spots are on my K-5 to.

serialnumber 3828349

Could it be oildrops? I read something about that, it was 2 years ago, alsoo Sony Sensor in Nikon camera. ??????

Thesorus · 12-06-2010, 10:29 AM

well, darn it ... I'm stained!!

It's going back to the store tomorrow for either replacement or repair, will see after discussing with the staff.

Also visible at f8 ... definitely going back.

Max.

RonHendriks1966 · 12-06-2010, 11:22 AM

Just googled it and had some results, but maybe someone has ideas about the possibillity of it being oil drops/smear on the AA filter?

Sensor Smear (not dust) D300 - Photo.net Nikon Forum

**dadipentak** · 12-06-2010, 11:26 AM

Has anyone performed this sort of testing on any camera other than a K-5? I just tried it on my 2.5yo K20D and it may looks like it may have a similar "issue" but there's other crud too and I'm going to have the sensor professionally cleaned along with the K-5 before I jump to any conclusions.

I'd be interested in results from bodies from other manufacturers, too.

Thesorus · 12-06-2010, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by dadipentak

I'd be interested in results from bodies from other manufacturers, too.

I'll check with my K200d tonight, but I'm certain I would have seen something while looking for dust.

M.

deadwolfbones · 12-06-2010, 12:09 PM

Can see a few normal dust spots on mine at f/22, but none of the weird "pitted" looking spots others have found.

JohnBee · 12-06-2010, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by dadipentak

Has anyone performed this sort of testing on any camera other than a K-5? I just tried it on my 2.5yo K20D and it may looks like it may have a similar "issue" but there's other crud too and I'm going to have the sensor professionally cleaned along with the K-5 before I jump to any conclusions.

I'd be interested in results from bodies from other manufacturers, too.

I checked my K20's and both are perfectly clean.
I also know our older K200 had a blemish on it, but was removed through several cleanings.

chicochongchu · 12-06-2010, 12:35 PM

not so sure if this was asked... but any word on what Pentax will do???

Wheatfield · 12-06-2010, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by chicochongchu

not so sure if this was asked... but any word on what Pentax will do???

I suspect that they'll do what any other company would do, which is repair or replace faulty equipment under warranty.
What else would they do?

**jbinpg** · 12-06-2010, 09:00 PM

Clean, s/n 3823965

Peter Fang · 12-06-2010, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by falconeye

I looked at my K-7 and K-5 now ...

My K-5 serial is 3830XXX (btw, are there already non 38XXXXX serials out there?).

Mine was 3827XXX. I think at least two users who responded to my dpr forum thread claimed to have K-5's with serials in the 3900XXX range.

Peter

Abstract · 12-06-2010, 11:46 PM

I have 1 stain on the upper left side, such a shame, I am afraid of getting a replacement and having the same issue....

Serial: 3889468

Shows up on F-stop 8 and up.

12-06-2010, 08:42 AM	#136
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Stainmap I looked at my K-7 and K-5 now ... Both my cameras have a number of particles. Some seem to sit on another layer, judging from the umbra/penumbra diameters. So, I guess, a singular dust particle every some and then is unavoidable. What is different with my K-5 (and the other images I see) is that there is a string of particles (in the upper left quadrant) which other cameras probably don't have. So, it isn't the stains as such which are the problem, but the string of stains. I marked the stain position (red) in the attached image. As I said, the random stains don't look too different from my K-7. My K-5 serial is 3830XXX (btw, are there already non 38XXXXX serials out there?). Last edited by falconeye; 06-23-2012 at 03:11 AM.

12-06-2010, 11:26 AM	#142
dadipentak Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,590	Just wondering... Has anyone performed this sort of testing on any camera other than a K-5? I just tried it on my 2.5yo K20D and it may looks like it may have a similar "issue" but there's other crud too and I'm going to have the sensor professionally cleaned along with the K-5 before I jump to any conclusions. I'd be interested in results from bodies from other manufacturers, too.

12-06-2010, 11:46 PM	#150
Abstract Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: New York Photos: Gallery Posts: 388	I have 1 stain on the upper left side, such a shame, I am afraid of getting a replacement and having the same issue.... Serial: 3889468 Shows up on F-stop 8 and up. Last edited by Abstract; 12-07-2010 at 12:07 AM.

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12-06-2010, 08:51 AM	#137
dadipentak Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,590	That helps to put things in perspective, Falk. As an FYI, The shop where I bought my K-5 has offered to clean the sensor and I'll take them up on the offer tomorrow. Based on Falk's analysis and other reports here, I'm doubtful that will resolve the issue but it's worth a try and even failure will be a success if it serves to validate the issue to Pentax via a retailer. Can I say I'm really glad I made this purchase through a brick & mortar shop?

12-06-2010, 10:12 AM	#138
MrPetkus Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 387	No offense taken. The K7 is a great camera. In a studio or on set the only advantages of the K5 over the K7 are ISO 80 and the additional resolution. In that application I certainly could have continued with my K7 for years more. However, now that I've used the K5, I'm completely spoiled by the high-ISO performance... Originally posted by Boris No offense or other ill intent, but I am thinking that professional consistency is exact opposite of impulsiveness... Just a thought for you to ponder. I am starting to think that I will not be getting K-5. I am reasonably content with K-7 although I know that I could enjoy K-5, I can still use K-7 may be even until Pentax introduces yet another flagship camera after K-5. I still have those gigs for my daughter to shoot and I am no pro by any meaningful measure.

12-06-2010, 10:19 AM	#139
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	The spots are on my K-5 to. serialnumber 3828349 Could it be oildrops? I read something about that, it was 2 years ago, alsoo Sony Sensor in Nikon camera. ??????

12-06-2010, 10:29 AM	#140
Thesorus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Montreal (Canada) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 200	well, darn it ... I'm stained!! It's going back to the store tomorrow for either replacement or repair, will see after discussing with the staff. Also visible at f8 ... definitely going back. Max.

12-06-2010, 11:22 AM	#141
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Just googled it and had some results, but maybe someone has ideas about the possibillity of it being oil drops/smear on the AA filter? Sensor Smear (not dust) D300 - Photo.net Nikon Forum

12-06-2010, 12:01 PM	#143
Thesorus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Montreal (Canada) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 200	Originally posted by dadipentak I'd be interested in results from bodies from other manufacturers, too. I'll check with my K200d tonight, but I'm certain I would have seen something while looking for dust. M.

12-06-2010, 12:09 PM	#144
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 7,451	Can see a few normal dust spots on mine at f/22, but none of the weird "pitted" looking spots others have found.

12-06-2010, 12:29 PM	#145
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667	Originally posted by dadipentak Has anyone performed this sort of testing on any camera other than a K-5? I just tried it on my 2.5yo K20D and it may looks like it may have a similar "issue" but there's other crud too and I'm going to have the sensor professionally cleaned along with the K-5 before I jump to any conclusions. I'd be interested in results from bodies from other manufacturers, too. I checked my K20's and both are perfectly clean. I also know our older K200 had a blemish on it, but was removed through several cleanings.

12-06-2010, 12:35 PM	#146
chicochongchu Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Alabang Posts: 28	not so sure if this was asked... but any word on what Pentax will do???

12-06-2010, 06:37 PM	#147
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,987	Originally posted by chicochongchu not so sure if this was asked... but any word on what Pentax will do??? I suspect that they'll do what any other company would do, which is repair or replace faulty equipment under warranty. What else would they do?

12-06-2010, 09:00 PM	#148
jbinpg Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Prince George, BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,546	Clean, s/n 3823965

12-06-2010, 10:11 PM	#149
Peter Fang Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Beijing, China Posts: 58 Original Poster	Originally posted by falconeye I looked at my K-7 and K-5 now ... My K-5 serial is 3830XXX (btw, are there already non 38XXXXX serials out there?). Mine was 3827XXX. I think at least two users who responded to my dpr forum thread claimed to have K-5's with serials in the 3900XXX range. Peter

Some K-5s shipped with stains on the sensor/AA filter?

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