Interresting reading.
Originally posted by falconeye
...I start from the most simple hypothesis I can make: that the stains are caused by opaque disk-shaped obstructions somewhere in the light path.
...The fact that this bright spot forms exactly as predicted by our opaque disk-shape obstruction hypothesis is a strong supportive argument. There is no evidence that the stain is from a liquid or oil particle.
...Everything combined, this means that the upper left stain is created by a round opaque particle of a bit less than 1/20 mm diameter and sitting between maybe 0.68 mm and 0.78 mm above the sensor. So, this determines the vertical particle position with about 1/20 mm precision which is about its diameter. Other stains seem to come from somewhat smaller particles.
...On some K-5, there sit a few dust-sized particles of 30 µm - 50 µm size on top of the cover glass of the sealed CMOS chip.
There is a smaller but finite equal chance that the stains sit within the CMOS chip on the inner side (underside) of the cover glass, or on the bottom of the AA filter, resp.
Smaller particles probably would remain invisible. Larger particles are uncommon for dust. Even 40 µm is large. Typically, dust particles are between 1 µm and 20 µm. It may actually be particles other than dust.
I follow your resoning that the spot must be formed by a round or near round (spherical) object.
Dust is not really anything scientifically well defined (such as necessarily being larger than 1 micrometer). If we are considering a former air borne object that settled on the sensor (or sensor glass or filters) we are talking about aerosol particles. But there are a few strange things here.
-Dust of these sizes we might call coarse mode particles. They deposit from the air mainly by gravitational settling (they fall down). In an air flow they will also impact on surfaces, or intercept on obstructions. At 20-40 micrometer the deposition is so efficient that they will have very short residence time in the air, and will not be able to travel very far from their source. We are talking minutes here to perhaps an hour. These properties also mean that they are fairly simple to filter away from a clean room environment. It can be much more difficult to get rid of smaller particles. So it is somewhat strange that a clean room at Pentax or Sony would fail in this way.
-Particles of this size is rarely spherical (or disc shaped). Small particles from nanometers up to the accumulation mode (0.1 to 1 micrometer) can be good spheres since some of them form in the air from condensing vapors (e.g. sulphuric acid, amonia etc), but they don't grow larger than about 0.2 micrometer at any reasonable vapor pressures. Coarse mode particles can consist of chrystals (sea salt, minerals), fibers from various often organic material, bacteria, pieces of biological material (usually far from spherical) etc. A salt chrystal will become a droplet (a sphere) if it takes up water, but this requires a humidity above about 40%. If you spend time watching aerosol particles in an electron microscope you realise that round particles are indeed rare.
-In absence of air flows with only gravitational deposition taking place, particles will fall downward. Handling the sensor in a vertical position or upside down will very much protect it from particles of this size.
All this together makes it unlikely that these round objects you have observed are former air borne particles that appear on the sensors due to an imperfect clean room environment.
Originally posted by falconeye ...With reversed lens macroscopy, we should be able to get a very good photograph of the particles.
...The trick is to mount a, say '50 to the K-5 and a '300 to another camera like a K-7. Then use a reverse filter ring and step rings to connect the two filter rings and cameras.
And then photograph the K-5 inerds (in bulb mode) using the K-7. The '50's focus wheel is used to shift the subject plane to the required location where everything above the sensor surface is easily adjusted.
Because the entire is sealed from light, you have to place a small LED with battery (gift shop article) in the bottom of the K-5 mirror box before mounting the '50.
In the end, you get a 1µm resolution image of the particle making it about 40x40 pixels large. So, a Raynox image is 1/50 of what's feasible with equipment on board.
This is pretty cool, might try this. But I'd apprechiate if you could explain how you get to the 1 µm resolution. The macro ratio you get with with the lenses arranged like this is 6:1, right? So is the resolution at 1:1 6µm? Is that based on pixel size? Doesn't lens resolution matter?
Originally posted by falconeye ...
...40 µm is pretty large though. I wonder why his macro shots didn't get better. In 1:1, a stain should be nearly 10 pixels wide...
So 4µm per pixel? Close enough to 6.
Originally posted by falconeye ...
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Whether to call it dust or not ...
I agree that it is probably remaining whatever from maybe what was meant to be a cleaning procedure or peeling off a protective adhesive. But in the end, dust is what we call 10µm-scale particles sitting at unwanted places
So, what I say is particles rather than dust actually.
Originally posted by philbaum Has anyone else noticed the coincidence that a lot of these reports indicate a row of dust spots. There are some single spots, some with 2 spots, 3 spots, but above that there is a linear nature to the spots.
Also, we aren't seeing hairs, or cotton lint or misc. dirt. I think what this might mean is that these parts were assembled in a "clean room"...
Originally posted by Peter Fang ...Almost every case reported so far have the stains or particles at or near the center so it's not some random locations.
I think this again speak against these spots being deposited aerosol particles. They should distribute rather randomly.
Falcon, could the round objects be some sort of material impurity instead? On/in sensors, glass or filter? I was thinking perhaps bubbles in the glass...bubbles makes fine spheres. And they are round and opaque. And they can appear in groups or lines if they formed together before the glass solidified.
Now we can only wait for some threads complaining that "they should have kept the Samsung sensor"
And be sure Hoya/Pentax and Sony currently have a rather vivid argument on whom to blaim (while sharpening their tantōs).