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Wheatfield · 01-05-2011, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by filorp

so at ev3 its back focussing? we have a news here!!!!

Well, that was the adjustment I put in.

dgaies · 01-05-2011, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by filorp

so at ev3 its back focussing? we have a news here!!!!

Front-focusing. A value of "-10" corrects a FF condition.

Wheatfield · 01-05-2011, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by Tommot1965

just updated the new official release firmware...1.02.. doesn't fix this problem im afraid..fixes others though. that I didn't know I had ..LMAO

Think of how much trouble they've saved you....

Tommot1965 · 01-05-2011, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by filorp

so at ev3 its back focussing? we have a news here!!!!

Edit

already answered

Tommot1965 · 01-05-2011, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

Think of how much trouble they've saved you....

back to fitting the wife's shelves ...

at least now contrast AF is quicker..so it will be a good workaround ..lets see what 1.03 brings...if its not fixed then....mine will/might be on its way back to the store..

filorp · 01-05-2011, 07:06 PM

Originally posted by dgaies

Front-focusing. A value of "-10" corrects a FF condition.

wait guys.... setting in minus shifts focusing point in my direction so it correct back focus problem - in oter words front focus is placing the focusing point before the subject....simply means that the camera focuses closer than it should be...

dgaies · 01-05-2011, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by filorp

wait guys.... setting in minus shifts focusing point in my direction so it correct back focus problem - in oter words front focus is placing the focusing point before the subject....simply means that the camera focuses closer than it should be...

As far as I understand, you dial in negative AF adjustments to counteract a front focus condition. You enter positive adjustment to compensate for a back focus condition. I'm pretty sure you have it reversed.

Rupert · 01-05-2011, 07:46 PM

Do I follow this correctly? You are at a wedding and you stop and dial in -10 as the New Couple comes down the dimly lit aisle heading outside........then you go outside and dial in +10 in the bright sunshine? Is this a new process or have Wedding Photographers been doing this regularly? I have never dialed in a thing on my K20D, not ever, not in any light. Maybe a few lenses could use it, but it was so close I never bothered. There has to be a better answer than this?
Pentax, I want the K5, make it right!
Regards

Tommot1965 · 01-05-2011, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by filorp

wait guys.... setting in minus shifts focusing point in my direction so it correct back focus problem - in oter words front focus is placing the focusing point before the subject....simply means that the camera focuses closer than it should be...

Nah

according to my Instruction booklet..page 126.. "minus" shifts the focus position further away...correcting FF.

I know it sounds arse about...but that my understanding....

filorp · 01-05-2011, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by dgaies

As far as I understand, you dial in negative AF adjustments to counteract a front focus condition. You enter positive adjustment to compensate for a back focus condition. I'm pretty sure you have it reversed.

just as iv said ff (+) correction, bf (-) correction - maybe i put it wrong but our wedding photographer with 40 years of epierience doing it in oposit way... hi said (-10) to correct ff

noons · 01-05-2011, 08:36 PM

I just picked mine up (bought from Ryda) from the courier depot.
Version 1.01 and tested under tungsten/artifical light and its perfectly fine with no FF, unlike my k-r.
I've only tested it with the 18-135 kit lens, but will try it with the FA 50 1.4 later today.

Serial: 39508##

Wheatfield · 01-05-2011, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by filorp

just as iv said ff (+) correction, bf (-) correction - maybe i put it wrong but our wedding photographer with 40 years of epierience doing it in oposit way... hi said (-10) to correct ff

No, I said that's what I put in. Of course, I'm, a photographer first, and a wiener a distant second, so I just do what works..
I'll leave it to the wieners to figure it out.

filorp · 01-05-2011, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by Tommot1965

Nah

according to my Instruction booklet..page 126.. "minus" shifts the focus position further away...correcting FF.

I know it sounds arse about...but that my understanding....

ok i though that minus is on the right side of the screen, my camera is two months in service so i could to forget.... could i?

SORRY WHEATFIELD im buing beer - lots of beer!!!

Tommot1965 · 01-05-2011, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by noons

I just picked mine up (bought from Ryda) from the courier depot.
Version 1.01 and tested under tungsten/artifical light and its perfectly fine with no FF, unlike my k-r.
I've only tested it with the 18-135 kit lens, but will try it with the FA 50 1.4 later today.

Serial: 39508##

dunno if F3.5 will show the problem as much ..you really need to be at 2.8 or wider to limit the DOF...try 50mm 1.4 at 1metre away...then let us know ?

Tommot1965 · 01-05-2011, 08:56 PM

Originally posted by filorp

im buing beer - lots of beer!!!

dont sound like a scotsman..MUCH..

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01-05-2011, 06:54 PM	#391
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,987	Originally posted by filorp so at ev3 its back focussing? we have a news here!!!! Well, that was the adjustment I put in.

01-05-2011, 06:55 PM	#392
dgaies Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Maryland / Washington DC Posts: 3,917	Originally posted by filorp so at ev3 its back focussing? we have a news here!!!! Front-focusing. A value of "-10" corrects a FF condition.

01-05-2011, 06:55 PM	#393
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,987	Originally posted by Tommot1965 just updated the new official release firmware...1.02.. doesn't fix this problem im afraid..fixes others though. that I didn't know I had ..LMAO Think of how much trouble they've saved you....

01-05-2011, 06:56 PM	#394
Tommot1965 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Perth Western Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,026	Originally posted by filorp so at ev3 its back focussing? we have a news here!!!! Edit already answered

01-05-2011, 07:00 PM	#395
Tommot1965 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Perth Western Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,026	Originally posted by Wheatfield Think of how much trouble they've saved you.... back to fitting the wife's shelves ... at least now contrast AF is quicker..so it will be a good workaround ..lets see what 1.03 brings...if its not fixed then....mine will/might be on its way back to the store..

01-05-2011, 07:06 PM	#396
filorp Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Aberdeen Scotland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 398	Originally posted by dgaies Front-focusing. A value of "-10" corrects a FF condition. wait guys.... setting in minus shifts focusing point in my direction so it correct back focus problem - in oter words front focus is placing the focusing point before the subject....simply means that the camera focuses closer than it should be...

01-05-2011, 07:25 PM	#397
dgaies Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Maryland / Washington DC Posts: 3,917	Originally posted by filorp wait guys.... setting in minus shifts focusing point in my direction so it correct back focus problem - in oter words front focus is placing the focusing point before the subject....simply means that the camera focuses closer than it should be... As far as I understand, you dial in negative AF adjustments to counteract a front focus condition. You enter positive adjustment to compensate for a back focus condition. I'm pretty sure you have it reversed.

01-05-2011, 07:46 PM	#398
Rupert Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 25,123	Do I follow this correctly? You are at a wedding and you stop and dial in -10 as the New Couple comes down the dimly lit aisle heading outside........then you go outside and dial in +10 in the bright sunshine? Is this a new process or have Wedding Photographers been doing this regularly? I have never dialed in a thing on my K20D, not ever, not in any light. Maybe a few lenses could use it, but it was so close I never bothered. There has to be a better answer than this? Pentax, I want the K5, make it right! Regards

01-05-2011, 08:31 PM	#399
Tommot1965 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Perth Western Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,026	Originally posted by filorp wait guys.... setting in minus shifts focusing point in my direction so it correct back focus problem - in oter words front focus is placing the focusing point before the subject....simply means that the camera focuses closer than it should be... Nah according to my Instruction booklet..page 126.. "minus" shifts the focus position further away...correcting FF. I know it sounds arse about...but that my understanding....

01-05-2011, 08:35 PM	#400
filorp Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Aberdeen Scotland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 398	Originally posted by dgaies As far as I understand, you dial in negative AF adjustments to counteract a front focus condition. You enter positive adjustment to compensate for a back focus condition. I'm pretty sure you have it reversed. just as iv said ff (+) correction, bf (-) correction - maybe i put it wrong but our wedding photographer with 40 years of epierience doing it in oposit way... hi said (-10) to correct ff

01-05-2011, 08:36 PM	#401
noons Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: WA, Australia Posts: 164	I just picked mine up (bought from Ryda) from the courier depot. Version 1.01 and tested under tungsten/artifical light and its perfectly fine with no FF, unlike my k-r. I've only tested it with the 18-135 kit lens, but will try it with the FA 50 1.4 later today. Serial: 39508##

01-05-2011, 08:42 PM	#402
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,987	Originally posted by filorp just as iv said ff (+) correction, bf (-) correction - maybe i put it wrong but our wedding photographer with 40 years of epierience doing it in oposit way... hi said (-10) to correct ff No, I said that's what I put in. Of course, I'm, a photographer first, and a wiener a distant second, so I just do what works.. I'll leave it to the wieners to figure it out.

01-05-2011, 08:44 PM	#403
filorp Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Aberdeen Scotland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 398	Originally posted by Tommot1965 Nah according to my Instruction booklet..page 126.. "minus" shifts the focus position further away...correcting FF. I know it sounds arse about...but that my understanding.... ok i though that minus is on the right side of the screen, my camera is two months in service so i could to forget.... could i? SORRY WHEATFIELD im buing beer - lots of beer!!!

01-05-2011, 08:54 PM	#404
Tommot1965 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Perth Western Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,026	Originally posted by noons I just picked mine up (bought from Ryda) from the courier depot. Version 1.01 and tested under tungsten/artifical light and its perfectly fine with no FF, unlike my k-r. I've only tested it with the 18-135 kit lens, but will try it with the FA 50 1.4 later today. Serial: 39508## dunno if F3.5 will show the problem as much ..you really need to be at 2.8 or wider to limit the DOF...try 50mm 1.4 at 1metre away...then let us know ?

01-05-2011, 08:56 PM	#405
Tommot1965 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Perth Western Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,026	Originally posted by filorp im buing beer - lots of beer!!! dont sound like a scotsman..MUCH..

who cares for bad AF under tungsten light ?

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