problem with new Apple Aperture profile

schneider · 02-19-2011, 10:43 AM

Apple Aperture now has a color profile for the K5. When reprocessing old masters the improvement is evident (old | new):

But strangely enough some images get completely screwed when I reprocess them:

At the moment it seems to me to be a random thing and undoable. Does anyone know what's going on?

**boriscleto** · 02-19-2011, 11:07 AM

There are multiple threads about the update and the problem. All you can do right now is report the problem to Apple and send them an example of the problem file. You can also downgrade to an older version of RAW Compatibility.

30v iPentax · 02-19-2011, 02:14 PM

Ihmettelen. Itselläni on aperture 3 ja käytän RAW PEF ei ole ollut pienintäkään ongelmaa. Niin kun aikoinaan oli Windovsissa jatkuvasti pugia.

i83N · 02-19-2011, 02:47 PM

just don't reprocess

a a i b · 02-19-2011, 02:55 PM

The problem seems to be with .DNG files, rather than .PEF files.

schneider · 02-20-2011, 04:34 AM

Well, if it only occurs during reprocessing I can live with it. Most older files I already processed to an OK level. However I am not sure if this is the case. If new files are being messed up too that would be problematic. Odd that Apple - as a premium supplier - makes such errors.

The new decoder by itself does a great job so I would be very happy if I could use it without hesitation.

ario arioldi · 02-20-2011, 05:12 AM

Originally posted by schneider

Well, if it only occurs during reprocessing I can live with it. Most older files I already processed to an OK level. However I am not sure if this is the case. If new files are being messed up too that would be problematic. Odd that Apple - as a premium supplier - makes such errors.

The new decoder by itself does a great job so I would be very happy if I could use it without hesitation.

No, the problem is there also with fresh files; at the moment the only way to me is to shoot PEF until the bug is fixed.

30v iPentax · 02-21-2011, 01:02 AM

Kannataa käyttää PEF.

vespats · 03-04-2011, 12:32 AM

Hi,
I had the same issue and downgraded (via TimeMaschine) the RawCamera.bundle that creates the problems.

The RawCamera.bundle file is stored in the following directory System > Library > CoreServices

It should be enough to downgrade only a single file of this package.
Opening this package we find Contents > Resources the file Raw.plist and use the RawCamera.bundle version 3.6.

Yesterday I downgraded the RawCamera.bundle, but today I will (as suggested by others) downgrade only the Raw.plist.

This Raw.plist can be modified, so maybe someone experienced find the problematic setting itself

schneider · 03-04-2011, 12:42 AM

Thanks for the tip Vespats! A downside is that the colors that Aperture comes up with with the 'old profile' are significantly worse compared to the 'new profile' (when it decodes correctly that is). For instance I got a green color cast with the old profile. Therefore I decided to switch to PEF for the time being. No problems so far.

vespats · 03-04-2011, 03:02 AM

I am currently processing hundred of old pictures (DNGs), for the future I may switch to PEF as well.

a a i b · 03-23-2011, 04:45 PM

The Aperture update (and/or 10.6.7) seems to have fixed the .DNG processing/white balance problem.

twitch · 03-23-2011, 04:51 PM

Great news. I wonder if they've re-broken the K-x DNG processing (which actually was only fixed by the previous update)

**bjdavey** · 03-23-2011, 07:52 PM

Originally posted by a a i b

The Aperture update (and/or 10.6.7) seems to have fixed the .DNG processing/white balance problem.

Yes - I can confirm that the magenta tinge on .DNG files is no longer there. Aperture RAW processing now works fine for both .DNG and .PEF files. Has anyone noticed a perceptible difference between Aperture processed .DNG and .PEF files (more pleasing colours, sharpness, etc)?

schneider · 03-24-2011, 06:37 AM

Yes indeed. Apple have solved this issue! Very happy about that.

02-19-2011, 10:43 AM	#1
schneider Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 200	problem with new Apple Aperture profile Apple Aperture now has a color profile for the K5. When reprocessing old masters the improvement is evident (old \| new): But strangely enough some images get completely screwed when I reprocess them: At the moment it seems to me to be a random thing and undoable. Does anyone know what's going on?

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02-19-2011, 11:07 AM	#2
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	There are multiple threads about the update and the problem. All you can do right now is report the problem to Apple and send them an example of the problem file. You can also downgrade to an older version of RAW Compatibility.

02-19-2011, 02:14 PM	#3
30v iPentax Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Suomi , Finland Posts: 368	Ihmettelen. Itselläni on aperture 3 ja käytän RAW PEF ei ole ollut pienintäkään ongelmaa. Niin kun aikoinaan oli Windovsissa jatkuvasti pugia.

02-19-2011, 02:47 PM	#4
i83N Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lithuania Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,203	just don't reprocess

02-19-2011, 02:55 PM	#5
a a i b Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brooklyn Photos: Gallery Posts: 315	The problem seems to be with .DNG files, rather than .PEF files.

02-20-2011, 04:34 AM	#6
schneider Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 200 Original Poster	Well, if it only occurs during reprocessing I can live with it. Most older files I already processed to an OK level. However I am not sure if this is the case. If new files are being messed up too that would be problematic. Odd that Apple - as a premium supplier - makes such errors. The new decoder by itself does a great job so I would be very happy if I could use it without hesitation.

02-20-2011, 05:12 AM	#7
ario arioldi New Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Milan Posts: 13	Originally posted by schneider Well, if it only occurs during reprocessing I can live with it. Most older files I already processed to an OK level. However I am not sure if this is the case. If new files are being messed up too that would be problematic. Odd that Apple - as a premium supplier - makes such errors. The new decoder by itself does a great job so I would be very happy if I could use it without hesitation. No, the problem is there also with fresh files; at the moment the only way to me is to shoot PEF until the bug is fixed.

02-21-2011, 01:02 AM	#8
30v iPentax Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Suomi , Finland Posts: 368	Kannataa käyttää PEF.

03-04-2011, 12:32 AM	#9
vespats Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 128	Hi, I had the same issue and downgraded (via TimeMaschine) the RawCamera.bundle that creates the problems. The RawCamera.bundle file is stored in the following directory System > Library > CoreServices It should be enough to downgrade only a single file of this package. Opening this package we find Contents > Resources the file Raw.plist and use the RawCamera.bundle version 3.6. Yesterday I downgraded the RawCamera.bundle, but today I will (as suggested by others) downgrade only the Raw.plist. This Raw.plist can be modified, so maybe someone experienced find the problematic setting itself

03-04-2011, 12:42 AM	#10
schneider Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 200 Original Poster	Thanks for the tip Vespats! A downside is that the colors that Aperture comes up with with the 'old profile' are significantly worse compared to the 'new profile' (when it decodes correctly that is). For instance I got a green color cast with the old profile. Therefore I decided to switch to PEF for the time being. No problems so far.

03-04-2011, 03:02 AM	#11
vespats Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 128	I am currently processing hundred of old pictures (DNGs), for the future I may switch to PEF as well.

03-23-2011, 04:45 PM	#12
a a i b Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brooklyn Photos: Gallery Posts: 315	The Aperture update (and/or 10.6.7) seems to have fixed the .DNG processing/white balance problem.

03-23-2011, 04:51 PM	#13
twitch Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,571	Great news. I wonder if they've re-broken the K-x DNG processing (which actually was only fixed by the previous update)

03-23-2011, 07:52 PM	#14
bjdavey Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Alexandria, VA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 162	Originally posted by a a i b The Aperture update (and/or 10.6.7) seems to have fixed the .DNG processing/white balance problem. Yes - I can confirm that the magenta tinge on .DNG files is no longer there. Aperture RAW processing now works fine for both .DNG and .PEF files. Has anyone noticed a perceptible difference between Aperture processed .DNG and .PEF files (more pleasing colours, sharpness, etc)?

03-24-2011, 06:37 AM	#15
schneider Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 200 Original Poster	Yes indeed. Apple have solved this issue! Very happy about that.