Best screen ever for manual focus : Canon ee-S!!!

Mychael · 11-25-2011, 12:24 AM

Thanks Guys, That link is handy. So Nuff, from having tried a couple of types you prefer one without any aids. So does it help you manual focus just by virtue of being clearer/brighter? and you gauge the overall image?

I have quite a range of lenses from fast 50mm primes to tele zooms which are not so fast. I'd like to have a good compromise where I can get use from all of them. So far all work well with the stock screen but one day my eyes will fail me and I'll need help, as it is I miss a few now due to being oof once I've checked the image on the computer.

Nuff · 11-25-2011, 12:42 AM - **1 Like**

I've not tried the one without aids, I've just ordered it couple of days ago and it might be couple of weeks before I get it.

The reason I want the ee-S screen is because it's supposed to show DOF better, so it should be better for composing. At least that's my thinking.
I think if your eyes are going to get bad, you might want to invest into a screen with focusing aids, even if it's not as accurate, it should show weather something is in focus a lot better.
A lot of it is preference, you might want to get couple of screens and compare them and sell the one you are not interested in.

Also the ee-S screen might be quiet dark with slower lenses. in that case it might not be a good screen for you.

dlacouture · 11-25-2011, 01:47 AM - **1 Like**

As I said before : from my measurements, the EE-S screen is in fact brighter with anything slower than f/4... That's why it performs brilliantly in stop-down metering, while the stock screen (and the vast majority of 3rd-party screens out there) will cause severe overexposure (up to nearly +3Ev with the K10/K20 screens) due to their drastic darkening at "small" apertures (talking from f/5.6 to f/16 here)...

**savoche** · 11-25-2011, 11:23 AM

Hmm, I ordered the S-screen because I wanted to make better use of my old M50 f/1.7 - but even before I have received the screen I've gone ahead and acquired two more lenses... That's not according to plan

But that A50 f/1.7 was too sweet to let slip. And everyone needs a 28mm, right? Looks like my new RMC Tokina 28 f/2.8 is actually very sharp.

So be ware: A new matte might well cost you more than the ~80 bucks focusingscreen charge you

Well, now I really need that new screen.

Mychael · 11-25-2011, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by savoche

Hmm, I ordered the S-screen because I wanted to make better use of my old M50 f/1.7 - but even before I have received the screen I've gone ahead and acquired two more lenses... That's not according to plan

But that A50 f/1.7 was too sweet to let slip. And everyone needs a 28mm, right? Looks like my new RMC Tokina 28 f/2.8 is actually very sharp.

So be ware: A new matte might well cost you more than the ~80 bucks focusingscreen charge you

Well, now I really need that new screen.

I know what you mean, of my uummm lets say quite a few lenses. 85% are manuals.

Franky2step · 11-25-2011, 07:28 PM

why don't we form a group to request a bulk order of S type focusing screens made for the K5 instead of individuals trying to order Ee-s Canon screens? If enough of us pool together, perhaps they would fill a larger order for our group!

Mychael · 11-25-2011, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by Franky2step

why don't we form a group to request a bulk order of S type focusing screens made for the K5 instead of individuals trying to order Ee-s Canon screens? If enough of us pool together, perhaps they would fill a larger order for our group!

Good thought. I'd be in it.

**G_Money** · 11-25-2011, 08:35 PM

I like that idea. Count me in too!

DogLover · 11-25-2011, 08:50 PM

Originally posted by Franky2step

why don't we form a group to request a bulk order of S type focusing screens made for the K5 instead of individuals trying to order Ee-s Canon screens? If enough of us pool together, perhaps they would fill a larger order for our group!

From whom? Deki's problem is getting the screens himself in order to modify them. Canon is the only original source, IFAIK, and they definitely aren't going to cut some to fit a K5. Ideally, Katzeye needs to figure out how to make s-type screens. Frankly, if they don't do something along those lines, their business will be taking a hit now that word has gotten out about "a better mousetrap".

Mychael · 11-25-2011, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by DogLover

From whom? Deki's problem is getting the screens himself in order to modify them. .

Surely wouldn't hurt for someone to put the proposition to him, if we could guarantee a definate order number. He might have ways to make a bulk order. I don't know the guy or how his operation works but nothing ventured nothing gained.

stevebrot · 11-26-2011, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by Franky2step

why don't we form a group to request a bulk order of S type focusing screens made for the K5 instead of individuals trying to order Ee-s Canon screens? If enough of us pool together, perhaps they would fill a larger order for our group!

Or just buy them from focusingscreen.com:

Type-S Screen for Pentax K-5

As mentioned earlier in this thread, this is the EE-S screen cut down to fit the K-5. The price is more than 2x what the EE-S costs ($34.95 USD at Adorama), but at least there is no risk of DIY damage

Steve

**savoche** · 11-26-2011, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

Or just buy them from focusingscreen.com:

Type-S Screen for Pentax K-5

As mentioned earlier in this thread, this is the EE-S screen cut down to fit the K-5. The price is more than 2x what the EE-S costs ($34.95 USD at Adorama), but at least there is no risk of DIY damage

Steve

Well, the problem is that you can't order as long as they're out of stock... So I guess the idea is to try to get focusingscreen.com to order a larger batch of screens than they normally do.

For my own part, I just got confirmation that my screen is on the way

**montman** · 12-01-2011, 02:25 PM

Mine just came in today. Shipping took less than a week. It is straight up amazing!!!! I could have probably taken it with or without the grid. Looks like they have some more in stock if you are looking.

vonBaloney · 12-01-2011, 02:32 PM

If somebody could figure out the laser specs and find a U.S.-based cutter, we could all probably get this done faster and cheaper.

DogLover · 12-01-2011, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by vonBaloney

If somebody could figure out the laser specs and find a U.S.-based cutter, we could all probably get this done faster and cheaper.

Cheaper, maybe (not much, though), but I doubt if you could get it done faster, as long as they're in stock, and it's not always a slam dunk to find the raw Canon screens in stock on your own, either. Mine took 5 days to arrive from Deki, including a weekend.

11-26-2011, 02:28 PM	#206
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Franky2step why don't we form a group to request a bulk order of S type focusing screens made for the K5 instead of individuals trying to order Ee-s Canon screens? If enough of us pool together, perhaps they would fill a larger order for our group! Or just buy them from focusingscreen.com: Type-S Screen for Pentax K-5 As mentioned earlier in this thread, this is the EE-S screen cut down to fit the K-5. The price is more than 2x what the EE-S costs ($34.95 USD at Adorama), but at least there is no risk of DIY damage Steve

11-26-2011, 02:38 PM	#207
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	Originally posted by stevebrot Or just buy them from focusingscreen.com: Type-S Screen for Pentax K-5 As mentioned earlier in this thread, this is the EE-S screen cut down to fit the K-5. The price is more than 2x what the EE-S costs ($34.95 USD at Adorama), but at least there is no risk of DIY damage Steve Well, the problem is that you can't order as long as they're out of stock... So I guess the idea is to try to get focusingscreen.com to order a larger batch of screens than they normally do. For my own part, I just got confirmation that my screen is on the way

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11-25-2011, 12:24 AM	#196
Mychael Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Melbourne,Victoria,Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 215	Thanks Guys, That link is handy. So Nuff, from having tried a couple of types you prefer one without any aids. So does it help you manual focus just by virtue of being clearer/brighter? and you gauge the overall image? I have quite a range of lenses from fast 50mm primes to tele zooms which are not so fast. I'd like to have a good compromise where I can get use from all of them. So far all work well with the stock screen but one day my eyes will fail me and I'll need help, as it is I miss a few now due to being oof once I've checked the image on the computer.

11-25-2011, 12:42 AM - 1 Like	#197
Nuff Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Sydney Posts: 671	I've not tried the one without aids, I've just ordered it couple of days ago and it might be couple of weeks before I get it. The reason I want the ee-S screen is because it's supposed to show DOF better, so it should be better for composing. At least that's my thinking. I think if your eyes are going to get bad, you might want to invest into a screen with focusing aids, even if it's not as accurate, it should show weather something is in focus a lot better. A lot of it is preference, you might want to get couple of screens and compare them and sell the one you are not interested in. Also the ee-S screen might be quiet dark with slower lenses. in that case it might not be a good screen for you.

11-25-2011, 01:47 AM - 1 Like	#198
dlacouture Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Var, South of France Photos: Albums Posts: 1,074 Original Poster	As I said before : from my measurements, the EE-S screen is in fact brighter with anything slower than f/4... That's why it performs brilliantly in stop-down metering, while the stock screen (and the vast majority of 3rd-party screens out there) will cause severe overexposure (up to nearly +3Ev with the K10/K20 screens) due to their drastic darkening at "small" apertures (talking from f/5.6 to f/16 here)...

11-25-2011, 11:23 AM	#199
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	Hmm, I ordered the S-screen because I wanted to make better use of my old M50 f/1.7 - but even before I have received the screen I've gone ahead and acquired two more lenses... That's not according to plan But that A50 f/1.7 was too sweet to let slip. And everyone needs a 28mm, right? Looks like my new RMC Tokina 28 f/2.8 is actually very sharp. So be ware: A new matte might well cost you more than the ~80 bucks focusingscreen charge you Well, now I really need that new screen.

11-25-2011, 02:00 PM	#200
Mychael Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Melbourne,Victoria,Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 215	Originally posted by savoche Hmm, I ordered the S-screen because I wanted to make better use of my old M50 f/1.7 - but even before I have received the screen I've gone ahead and acquired two more lenses... That's not according to plan But that A50 f/1.7 was too sweet to let slip. And everyone needs a 28mm, right? Looks like my new RMC Tokina 28 f/2.8 is actually very sharp. So be ware: A new matte might well cost you more than the ~80 bucks focusingscreen charge you Well, now I really need that new screen. I know what you mean, of my uummm lets say quite a few lenses. 85% are manuals.

11-25-2011, 07:28 PM	#201
Franky2step Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Niagara Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 793	why don't we form a group to request a bulk order of S type focusing screens made for the K5 instead of individuals trying to order Ee-s Canon screens? If enough of us pool together, perhaps they would fill a larger order for our group!

11-25-2011, 07:32 PM	#202
Mychael Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Melbourne,Victoria,Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 215	Originally posted by Franky2step why don't we form a group to request a bulk order of S type focusing screens made for the K5 instead of individuals trying to order Ee-s Canon screens? If enough of us pool together, perhaps they would fill a larger order for our group! Good thought. I'd be in it.

11-25-2011, 08:35 PM	#203
G_Money Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 598	I like that idea. Count me in too!

11-25-2011, 08:50 PM	#204
DogLover Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,054	Originally posted by Franky2step why don't we form a group to request a bulk order of S type focusing screens made for the K5 instead of individuals trying to order Ee-s Canon screens? If enough of us pool together, perhaps they would fill a larger order for our group! From whom? Deki's problem is getting the screens himself in order to modify them. Canon is the only original source, IFAIK, and they definitely aren't going to cut some to fit a K5. Ideally, Katzeye needs to figure out how to make s-type screens. Frankly, if they don't do something along those lines, their business will be taking a hit now that word has gotten out about "a better mousetrap".

11-25-2011, 09:05 PM	#205
Mychael Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Melbourne,Victoria,Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 215	Originally posted by DogLover From whom? Deki's problem is getting the screens himself in order to modify them. . Surely wouldn't hurt for someone to put the proposition to him, if we could guarantee a definate order number. He might have ways to make a bulk order. I don't know the guy or how his operation works but nothing ventured nothing gained.

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12-01-2011, 02:25 PM	#208
montman Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Kansas City Photos: Gallery Posts: 576	Mine just came in today. Shipping took less than a week. It is straight up amazing!!!! I could have probably taken it with or without the grid. Looks like they have some more in stock if you are looking.

12-01-2011, 02:32 PM	#209
vonBaloney Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 6,029	If somebody could figure out the laser specs and find a U.S.-based cutter, we could all probably get this done faster and cheaper.

12-01-2011, 04:08 PM	#210
DogLover Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,054	Originally posted by vonBaloney If somebody could figure out the laser specs and find a U.S.-based cutter, we could all probably get this done faster and cheaper. Cheaper, maybe (not much, though), but I doubt if you could get it done faster, as long as they're in stock, and it's not always a slam dunk to find the raw Canon screens in stock on your own, either. Mine took 5 days to arrive from Deki, including a weekend.