LV and rule of thirds

Dr_who · 04-30-2011, 03:24 PM

I happened to see another persons K5 while the LV was on and saw a thirds grid on it. It this a setting option in the K5 or did they have a lcd screen protector on it with this grid on it?

pbo · 04-30-2011, 03:32 PM

It's a setting in live view mode settings. Technically, it's not a rule of thirds screen since it divides the screen into 16 parts (4x4) as opposed to 9 parts (3x3), but I find it helps with composition.

Dr_who · 04-30-2011, 03:34 PM

cool, I just noticed the grid type display, and though tit pretty handy, glad its a setting thats easily turned on or off. Thanks

ozlizard · 04-30-2011, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by pbo

Technically, it's not a rule of thirds screen since it divides the screen into 16 parts (4x4) as opposed to 9 parts (3x3), but I find it helps with composition.

I find it amazing that anyone would need a grid to help with composition. If that doesn't come naturally then maybe it's time to find another hobby!

pbo · 04-30-2011, 07:18 PM

Quote:

I find it amazing that anyone would need a grid to help with composition. If that doesn't come naturally then maybe it's time to find another hobby!

It's a good composition aid, perhaps you should try it. I'm not saying you should give up your composition sense and rely on electronics, but it is a useful thing to have. Also, you can use it as a leveling tool in case your level is off.

RXrenesis8 · 04-30-2011, 08:12 PM

Live view has 4 possible grids on a K-5:

Off (none)
4x4
3x3 with two diagonal lines making an X through the center
crosshairs with 4 vertical and 6 horizontal markings

This can be changed in the "camera icon" section of the menu, under "Live View"

ozlizard · 04-30-2011, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by pbo

but it is a useful thing to have. Also, you can use it as a leveling tool in case your level is off.

Sorry, but I have to disagree. We have two eyes and a brain for all that stuff. If you are looking through your viewfinder worrying about all that (most of which can be corrected in PP), then you may be missing the creative purpose of the shot. Creativity comes from within, it is not merely the sum of a number of electronic calculations and rules.

Verglace · 04-30-2011, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by ozlizard

I find it amazing that anyone would need a grid to help with composition. If that doesn't come naturally then maybe it's time to find another hobby!

Elitist much?... I'm sure even the best artist had to start learning somewhere and if the grid helpds people start learning about composition then why are you detracting them from using them? I bet da vinci couldn't paint his masterpieces without first learning the basics.

asdf · 04-30-2011, 10:16 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ozlizard

Sorry, but I have to disagree. We have two eyes and a brain for all that stuff. If you are looking through your viewfinder worrying about all that (most of which can be corrected in PP), then you may be missing the creative purpose of the shot. Creativity comes from within, it is not merely the sum of a number of electronic calculations and rules.

Sometimes the muses tell me to shoot a picture that is level with the horizon.

civiletti · 04-30-2011, 11:12 PM

"3x3 with two diagonal lines making an X through the center"

I believe this would be the most useful. Composition can be internalized, but guides can promote, rather than hinder development of this.

Dr_who · 05-01-2011, 12:46 AM

Originally posted by civiletti

"3x3 with two diagonal lines making an X through the center"

I believe this would be the most useful. Composition can be internalized, but guides can promote, rather than hinder development of this.

I think this must be the one I saw, and I appreciate all the input on it. I should be gettign my K5 on Monday or Tues! pretty excited waiting for it to arrive. I noticed dark frame subtraction removal is also a option in the K5 which I think I'll really enjoy!

testdasi · 05-03-2011, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by ozlizard

I find it amazing that anyone would need a grid to help with composition. If that doesn't come naturally then maybe it's time to find another hobby!

That is extremely elitist.

Even Mozart has to learn music from somewhere.

Siegfried · 05-03-2011, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by testdasi

Even Mozart has to learn music from somewhere.

A real pro does not use any tripod, he is born steadfast. Paganini wasn't a real pro since he spent all his childhood and adolescence in cellar - it was the senior Paganini who cloister Nicolas - so all his capriccios as well as la Campanella aka la Clochette and other things he brought out do not count. Definitely not a pro!

Zig

04-30-2011, 03:24 PM	#1
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04-30-2011, 03:32 PM	#2
pbo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 891	It's a setting in live view mode settings. Technically, it's not a rule of thirds screen since it divides the screen into 16 parts (4x4) as opposed to 9 parts (3x3), but I find it helps with composition.

04-30-2011, 03:34 PM	#3
Dr_who Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 777 Original Poster	cool, I just noticed the grid type display, and though tit pretty handy, glad its a setting thats easily turned on or off. Thanks

04-30-2011, 05:24 PM	#4
ozlizard Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bridgetown West Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 903	Originally posted by pbo Technically, it's not a rule of thirds screen since it divides the screen into 16 parts (4x4) as opposed to 9 parts (3x3), but I find it helps with composition. I find it amazing that anyone would need a grid to help with composition. If that doesn't come naturally then maybe it's time to find another hobby!

04-30-2011, 07:18 PM	#5
pbo Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 891	Quote: I find it amazing that anyone would need a grid to help with composition. If that doesn't come naturally then maybe it's time to find another hobby! It's a good composition aid, perhaps you should try it. I'm not saying you should give up your composition sense and rely on electronics, but it is a useful thing to have. Also, you can use it as a leveling tool in case your level is off.

04-30-2011, 08:12 PM	#6
RXrenesis8 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Orlando, FL (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 523	Live view has 4 possible grids on a K-5: Off (none) 4x4 3x3 with two diagonal lines making an X through the center crosshairs with 4 vertical and 6 horizontal markings This can be changed in the "camera icon" section of the menu, under "Live View"

04-30-2011, 09:53 PM	#7
ozlizard Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bridgetown West Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 903	Originally posted by pbo but it is a useful thing to have. Also, you can use it as a leveling tool in case your level is off. Sorry, but I have to disagree. We have two eyes and a brain for all that stuff. If you are looking through your viewfinder worrying about all that (most of which can be corrected in PP), then you may be missing the creative purpose of the shot. Creativity comes from within, it is not merely the sum of a number of electronic calculations and rules.

04-30-2011, 10:13 PM	#8
Verglace Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 468	Originally posted by ozlizard I find it amazing that anyone would need a grid to help with composition. If that doesn't come naturally then maybe it's time to find another hobby! Elitist much?... I'm sure even the best artist had to start learning somewhere and if the grid helpds people start learning about composition then why are you detracting them from using them? I bet da vinci couldn't paint his masterpieces without first learning the basics.

04-30-2011, 10:16 PM - 1 Like	#9
asdf Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 1,252	Originally posted by ozlizard Sorry, but I have to disagree. We have two eyes and a brain for all that stuff. If you are looking through your viewfinder worrying about all that (most of which can be corrected in PP), then you may be missing the creative purpose of the shot. Creativity comes from within, it is not merely the sum of a number of electronic calculations and rules. Sometimes the muses tell me to shoot a picture that is level with the horizon.

04-30-2011, 11:12 PM	#10
civiletti Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Oregon Photos: Albums Posts: 1,435	"3x3 with two diagonal lines making an X through the center" I believe this would be the most useful. Composition can be internalized, but guides can promote, rather than hinder development of this.

05-01-2011, 12:46 AM	#11
Dr_who Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 777 Original Poster	Originally posted by civiletti "3x3 with two diagonal lines making an X through the center" I believe this would be the most useful. Composition can be internalized, but guides can promote, rather than hinder development of this. I think this must be the one I saw, and I appreciate all the input on it. I should be gettign my K5 on Monday or Tues! pretty excited waiting for it to arrive. I noticed dark frame subtraction removal is also a option in the K5 which I think I'll really enjoy!

05-03-2011, 01:41 PM	#12
testdasi Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: London Posts: 35	Originally posted by ozlizard I find it amazing that anyone would need a grid to help with composition. If that doesn't come naturally then maybe it's time to find another hobby! That is extremely elitist. Even Mozart has to learn music from somewhere.

05-03-2011, 03:48 PM	#13
Siegfried Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: in a middle of nowhere Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 165	Originally posted by testdasi Even Mozart has to learn music from somewhere. A real pro does not use any tripod, he is born steadfast. Paganini wasn't a real pro since he spent all his childhood and adolescence in cellar - it was the senior Paganini who cloister Nicolas - so all his capriccios as well as la Campanella aka la Clochette and other things he brought out do not count. Definitely not a pro! Zig