Wow, this guy really hates the K5 and says Pentax is 2 generations behind Canikon

**newmikey** · 05-13-2011, 05:12 AM

Originally posted by Digitalis

If that is really him Newmikey,I have to say some of his images aren't half bad, Though many of them exhibit common compositional faults.

Look at the way he introduces himself on Amazon and then look at his Flickr profile...it's him.

**boriscleto** · 05-13-2011, 05:55 AM

Originally posted by jeztastic

Surely this guy is a troll? I mean, Bob Weiner? I mean, I do sometimes hear genuine American names that I think sound fake... But Weiner? I think we all just took his bait, his probably posting his scores on 4chan or something...

We have a Congressman from New York named Anthony Weiner. There is also a right-wing radio talk show host who goes by the name Michael Savage, his real name is Michael Weiner. He is not allowed into your country.

**newmikey** · 05-13-2011, 06:22 AM

Originally posted by boriscleto

We have a Congressman from New York named Anthony Weiner. There is also a right-wing radio talk show host who goes by the name Michael Savage, his real name is Michael Weiner. He is not allowed into your country.

This guy is called Wiener, not Weiner

**boriscleto** · 05-13-2011, 06:34 AM

Originally posted by newmikey

This guy is called Wiener, not Weiner

So he forgot that it's "I before E except after C unless your ancestors were German".

legacyb4 · 05-13-2011, 06:34 AM

Obviously a #troll...

Peter Anson · 05-13-2011, 07:04 AM

Originally posted by crossover37

I believed I was good enough to be competitive with just about anyone out there, and was comparing my pictures very critically with the best.

This is when I started laughing and continued until the end of the rave. I'm still chuckling.

DogLover · 05-13-2011, 09:15 AM

He has apparently wised up and pulled his review.

joe.penn · 05-13-2011, 09:27 AM

Or, he will pull it and repost it to start it from scratch again...

JohnBee · 05-13-2011, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by joe.penn

Or, he will pull it and repost it to start it from scratch again...

As sad as this sounds, It is likely to be true.
Oh well... on a more positive note, it was entertaining to read

DogLover · 05-13-2011, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by JohnBee

As sad as this sounds, It is likely to be true.
Oh well... on a more positive note, it was entertaining to read

If he does, I'll comment on it again. Just because it's fun.

Rupert · 05-13-2011, 09:39 AM

I really don't care what some guy thinks when it is obvious he knows nothing about the K5 or most likely anything else....
I also don't care what he shoots with...if he shoots at all? I have found that even Nikon and Canon shooters feel that they are 3-5 generations behind others that have instituted in body SR. They feel cheated...mainly because they are. Lightning fast focus will never get you this shot with no SR if you are using an unstabilized lens.....and Canon and Nikon shooters know it. We all have many hundreds of shots we got and they didn't.....so how many generations ahead is that? Sure, you can buy expensive stabilized lenses.....but we don't have to. That's Nikon/Canon progress?

Regards!

1/20 Hand held 500MM f6.7 Sigma 50-500

speedoo · 05-13-2011, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by nanok

it is a (random) user review on a reputable site, which does not moderate reviews afaik. as you said, does anybody honestly fall for such a review? unfortunately there are people who will, and for those people the battle is lost already (so you are wasting your time). for people who fall for lame sales pitches, who will always buy the most popular brand and so on, being worried about what such reviews will lead them to believe is ridiculous, for those people who can do their homework and know what a camera is and how it works, worying is also ridiculous, because those are the people who post negative replies to such a review: no need to worry about them

.

that was my point. it's just a madman screaming random words with no meaning. why stop and tell him he's wrong? it's not even true, he's not wrong, he's not making any sense, and nobody cares

It was more than a "random" review. Amazon advertised it as the "most helpful" critical review (only because it was the ONLY critical review). So, until his review was commented upon very thoroughly and countered, and before 60+ readers voted it "not helpful", it was sitting there prominently, with all it's nonsensical issues.

Then this thread came along and promoted the response, and now the review has been pulled. The truth has come out.

And you really have a problem with that?

joe.penn · 05-13-2011, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by JohnBee

As sad as this sounds, It is likely to be true.
Oh well... on a more positive note, it was entertaining to read

Thinking about it, I wonder if there is an algorithm implemented in amazons comments system that automatically truncates a comment if it reaches a certain amount of responses, and once this number is met, the negative "not helpful" reaches a certain percentage of the total responses. For amazon, this would be a logical thing to do from a business standpoint...

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glanglois · 05-13-2011, 10:35 AM

It was at nil to 80 on the helpfulness chart an hour and a half ago. Love to know what the final score was .......

**asaru** · 05-13-2011, 10:39 AM

(disclaimer: I've never held a k-5, I can't comment on it at all)

Do you think the obvious pile-on here, which will last indefinitely as opposed to the one bad review already pulled, helps the Pentaxian cause?

Note I said Pentaxian, not Pentax. The cameras are what they are. The shooters, on the other hand...

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05-13-2011, 05:12 AM	#61
newmikey Site Supporter Join Date: May 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,287	Originally posted by Digitalis If that is really him Newmikey,I have to say some of his images aren't half bad, Though many of them exhibit common compositional faults. Look at the way he introduces himself on Amazon and then look at his Flickr profile...it's him.

05-13-2011, 05:55 AM	#62
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	Originally posted by jeztastic Surely this guy is a troll? I mean, Bob Weiner? I mean, I do sometimes hear genuine American names that I think sound fake... But Weiner? I think we all just took his bait, his probably posting his scores on 4chan or something... We have a Congressman from New York named Anthony Weiner. There is also a right-wing radio talk show host who goes by the name Michael Savage, his real name is Michael Weiner. He is not allowed into your country.

05-13-2011, 06:22 AM	#63
newmikey Site Supporter Join Date: May 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,287	Originally posted by boriscleto We have a Congressman from New York named Anthony Weiner. There is also a right-wing radio talk show host who goes by the name Michael Savage, his real name is Michael Weiner. He is not allowed into your country. This guy is called Wiener, not Weiner

05-13-2011, 06:34 AM	#64
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	Originally posted by newmikey This guy is called Wiener, not Weiner So he forgot that it's "I before E except after C unless your ancestors were German".

05-13-2011, 06:34 AM	#65
legacyb4 Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Tri-Cities, British Columbia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,784	Obviously a #troll...

05-13-2011, 07:04 AM	#66
Peter Anson Inactive Account Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sydney Photos: Albums Posts: 211	Originally posted by crossover37 I believed I was good enough to be competitive with just about anyone out there, and was comparing my pictures very critically with the best. This is when I started laughing and continued until the end of the rave. I'm still chuckling.

05-13-2011, 09:15 AM	#67
DogLover Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,054	He has apparently wised up and pulled his review.

05-13-2011, 09:27 AM	#68
joe.penn Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Maryland (Right Outside Washington DC) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,902	Or, he will pull it and repost it to start it from scratch again...

05-13-2011, 09:30 AM	#69
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667	Originally posted by joe.penn Or, he will pull it and repost it to start it from scratch again... As sad as this sounds, It is likely to be true. Oh well... on a more positive note, it was entertaining to read

05-13-2011, 09:37 AM	#70
DogLover Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,054	Originally posted by JohnBee As sad as this sounds, It is likely to be true. Oh well... on a more positive note, it was entertaining to read If he does, I'll comment on it again. Just because it's fun.

05-13-2011, 09:39 AM	#71
Rupert Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 25,123	I really don't care what some guy thinks when it is obvious he knows nothing about the K5 or most likely anything else.... I also don't care what he shoots with...if he shoots at all? I have found that even Nikon and Canon shooters feel that they are 3-5 generations behind others that have instituted in body SR. They feel cheated...mainly because they are. Lightning fast focus will never get you this shot with no SR if you are using an unstabilized lens.....and Canon and Nikon shooters know it. We all have many hundreds of shots we got and they didn't.....so how many generations ahead is that? Sure, you can buy expensive stabilized lenses.....but we don't have to. That's Nikon/Canon progress? Regards! 1/20 Hand held 500MM f6.7 Sigma 50-500

05-13-2011, 10:20 AM	#72
speedoo Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New York, USA Posts: 123	Originally posted by nanok it is a (random) user review on a reputable site, which does not moderate reviews afaik. as you said, does anybody honestly fall for such a review? unfortunately there are people who will, and for those people the battle is lost already (so you are wasting your time). for people who fall for lame sales pitches, who will always buy the most popular brand and so on, being worried about what such reviews will lead them to believe is ridiculous, for those people who can do their homework and know what a camera is and how it works, worying is also ridiculous, because those are the people who post negative replies to such a review: no need to worry about them . that was my point. it's just a madman screaming random words with no meaning. why stop and tell him he's wrong? it's not even true, he's not wrong, he's not making any sense, and nobody cares It was more than a "random" review. Amazon advertised it as the "most helpful" critical review (only because it was the ONLY critical review). So, until his review was commented upon very thoroughly and countered, and before 60+ readers voted it "not helpful", it was sitting there prominently, with all it's nonsensical issues. Then this thread came along and promoted the response, and now the review has been pulled. The truth has come out. And you really have a problem with that?

05-13-2011, 10:24 AM	#73
joe.penn Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Maryland (Right Outside Washington DC) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,902	Originally posted by JohnBee As sad as this sounds, It is likely to be true. Oh well... on a more positive note, it was entertaining to read Thinking about it, I wonder if there is an algorithm implemented in amazons comments system that automatically truncates a comment if it reaches a certain amount of responses, and once this number is met, the negative "not helpful" reaches a certain percentage of the total responses. For amazon, this would be a logical thing to do from a business standpoint... -

05-13-2011, 10:35 AM	#74
glanglois Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Madison, Wis., USA Posts: 1,506	It was at nil to 80 on the helpfulness chart an hour and a half ago. Love to know what the final score was .......

05-13-2011, 10:39 AM	#75
asaru Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Edmonton/Vancouver, Canada Photos: Albums Posts: 301	(disclaimer: I've never held a k-5, I can't comment on it at all) Do you think the obvious pile-on here, which will last indefinitely as opposed to the one bad review already pulled, helps the Pentaxian cause? Note I said Pentaxian, not Pentax. The cameras are what they are. The shooters, on the other hand...