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06-24-2011, 12:14 PM   #1
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FA 77mm Ltd necessary?

I have owned DA* 60-250mm and am considering to have a FA 77 Ltd lens. Do you guys think it is necessary? I am pretty like DA* 60-250mm, that's a great lens. I know 77 ltd is mainly for portrait, but DA* 60-250mm could do a decent job either.

Consider the price of 77 ltd, what's your advice? Thank you.

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Is a wife necessary? Or a pet? Point is, only you can decide this. The only course of action is to lay your hands on a 77 and see if you click with it. Sell it if you don't. Much easier than dealing with an unwanted wife or pet.
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QuoteOriginally posted by DogLover Quote
Is a wife necessary? Or a pet?
exact, and I would add this is not for the same use

same thing for FA77 and the 60-250
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If the question is whether the 60-250 enough to do portraits and whether you really need the FA77, the answer is it depends on what kind of portraits you want to do. Most people who want to do portraits prefer to use a faster lens than the 60-250. Easier to blur the background etc. Sometimes its preferable to even just get only the eyes sharp and make everything else progressively less so. Also you should consider the effect of pointing a gian lens at someone...

There are cheaper alternatives. Consider the tamron 28-75, pentax da70 etc.

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QuoteOriginally posted by DogLover Quote
Is a wife necessary? Or a pet? Point is, only you can decide this. The only course of action is to lay your hands on a 77 and see if you click with it. Sell it if you don't. Much easier than dealing with an unwanted wife or pet.
I find it pretty interesting that your first analogy to a lens purchase is a wife, LOL.
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I find it pretty interesting that your first analogy to a lens purchase is a wife, LOL.
That's no coincidence.
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There is a massive difference in length:

60-250mm - 6.6 inches
77mm - 1.9 inches

And weight:

60-250mm - 39.5 oz
77mm - 9.5

Necessity is entirely up to you. Although the 60-250mm is a great lens, it's size and weight put it in the unnecessary category for me. However, I do have a 55-300mm and love it. But then, I also have 3 135mm primes. 2 probably aren't "necessary", but one of them, my f2.5 K, is most definitely necessary since I'll be using it this evening shooting my daughters' dance recital. I'll also probably be bringing my 77mm, but even if I had a 60-250mm it would stay at home for this event as it probably wouldn't give me very good results.


Both the 60-250mm and 77mm fill entirely different purposes. The telephoto zoom has great reach, but isn't terribly fast, especially at the short end, and it's a pretty big lens. The 77mm is limited to but a single focal length. Are you comfortable with that? As suggested, perhaps a fast zoom like the Tamron would be more appropriate for you. However, the thing is fast. It's built for speed. It's built for shallow depth of field. And it's built for portability. For the speed and focal length you get, this thing is small and the 70mm is practically tiny.

Also, check out what the 77mm can do.

Full-size sample photos from Pentax 77mm F/1.8

It's not just a "portrait" lens.

For me tonight it's my "wide angle" if I want to capture the whole dance stage while the 135mm is for focusing on individuals.

Perhaps a better analogy would be:

I've got a car so is a dirt bike necessary?
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You've got the best analogies already. It's all about your own use.
For me the 77 was a necessity. Not only for the speed, but the sharp images, and of course the size.

But, I am more of a prime shooter to begin with. It's where I'm more comfortable.
If you can, borrow one for a day, otherwise take DogLovers advise and buy one, sell it if you don't find it "your necessity".

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Is this correct area for lens discussion?


You may get some different responses from non K-5 owners
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QuoteOriginally posted by DogLover Quote
Is a wife necessary? Or a pet? Point is, only you can decide this. The only course of action is to lay your hands on a 77 and see if you click with it. Sell it if you don't. Much easier than dealing with an unwanted wife or pet.
QuoteOriginally posted by oliver939 Quote
exact, and I would add this is not for the same use

same thing for FA77 and the 60-250
Well! That explains why Spot overstarches my shorts ...
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I prefer the Samyang 85mm f/1.4 for portraits

and there's money to get few more nice lenses
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