K5 colors

garyk · 07-14-2011, 10:30 AM

That is exactly what I do JohnBee. Pentax colors are really sweet. But those tweeks really bring out the best in the K-5 I think. I have noticed it is not the same for Canon thou... Pentax is my love for sure. That K-5 has really spoiled me and i pit it against every other camera.

stanic · 07-14-2011, 12:16 PM

this is interesting, when I got my K-x I also played with profiles in LR and never liked the look of "embedded" so I left it at adobe standard...rechecked this now with K5...hmm
looks like the embedded really boosts the colours in sort of "warmer" WB, but if I just set the embedded profile leaving other values as before, the reds get overexposed, for example
I never played with K10D raws otoh

Eruditass · 07-14-2011, 10:01 PM

I always liked adobe standard over embedded, especially with reds and violets. IMHO, of course.

Emacs · 07-14-2011, 11:11 PM

Google what is color target.

stanic · 07-15-2011, 12:39 AM

so I guess my monitor is not colour managed then? if I observe colour shift changing the profiles from embedded to adobe standard?

audiobomber · 07-15-2011, 05:44 AM

I don't know what hope anyone has of developing accurate colours. Look at any camera vs standard. None are correct across all colours.

All one can do is look for a colour cast that pleases you. I didn't have the K-5 long enough to have an opinion, but the reds seemed a little pink. Of the Pentaxes I've had, the K100DS was too warm, K-x too cool and K20D just right, out of the box, for me.

**wutsurstyle** · 07-15-2011, 06:06 AM

So what is the difference between embedded and adobe standard? does embedded use the same profile used in creating pentax jpeg? i find default colors for red and purple to be a little on the magenta and pink side, respectively. i think the comment on "camera vs standard" has some truth to it, none are all correct. ALso, I think the quality of the lens has some effect before color reaches your sensor as raw data.

audiobomber · 07-15-2011, 06:37 AM

Originally posted by wutsurstyle

ALso, I think the quality of the lens has some effect before color reaches your sensor as raw data.

Definitely the lens is a factor, sometimes more of a factor than the body. I have a Kiron with a strong blue colour cast. I find my 18-135mm also punches up blues, although not as much as the Kiron. I never liked the colours from my Tamron 70-300mm, and from looking at photos on the net, some Sigmas seem overly warm.

stanic · 07-15-2011, 07:46 AM

Originally posted by wutsurstyle

I think the quality of the lens has some effect before color reaches your sensor as raw data.

can confirm this - there is big difference between warmish rendering of my DA 35/2,8 and much cooler A 50/1,7

yusuf · 07-15-2011, 09:14 AM

Just wondering, when I open my k-x raw files in ACR, I don't see embedded profile. Am I missing anything?

Couscousdelight · 07-16-2011, 03:52 AM

Hi,
I've prepared a little comparison between LR's camera profiles with a K-5.
click here (click on the images to compare them).

Best regards,
Arno

audiobomber · 07-16-2011, 04:33 AM

Here's a comparison I did some time ago, showing K20D raw conversions for Adobe Camera Raw vs Pentax. I have a clear preference for Pentax colour rendition. There was nothing I could do to made Adobe files look like Pentax (Silkypix) files.

https://picasaweb.google.com/bonhommed/RawConversions?authkey=Gv1sRgCLqHn5yU5o7scw#

audiobomber · 07-16-2011, 04:34 AM

Originally posted by Couscousdelight

Hi,
I've prepared a little comparison between LR's camera profiles with a K-5.
click here (click on the images to compare them).

Best regards,
Arno

Photos are not showing for me.

Couscousdelight · 07-16-2011, 04:49 AM

Originally posted by audiobomber

Photos are not showing for me.

Ho ? The photo roll-over effect is made with Adobe Flash, maybe you don't have Flash on your device ?

Edit : Oh sh**, that stupid internet explorer doesn't show the flash files in my Wordpress blog, it works with all other navigators.
I'll fix that.
I HATE INTERNET EXPLORER !

Couscousdelight · 07-16-2011, 05:08 AM

Ok, it's fixed !
Thanks to Kimili embedded flash plugin for wordpress...

07-15-2011, 05:44 AM	#21
audiobomber Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sudbury, Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806	I don't know what hope anyone has of developing accurate colours. Look at any camera vs standard. None are correct across all colours. All one can do is look for a colour cast that pleases you. I didn't have the K-5 long enough to have an opinion, but the reds seemed a little pink. Of the Pentaxes I've had, the K100DS was too warm, K-x too cool and K20D just right, out of the box, for me. Last edited by audiobomber; 07-15-2011 at 06:33 AM.

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07-14-2011, 10:30 AM	#16
garyk Inactive Account Join Date: Feb 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 488	That is exactly what I do JohnBee. Pentax colors are really sweet. But those tweeks really bring out the best in the K-5 I think. I have noticed it is not the same for Canon thou... Pentax is my love for sure. That K-5 has really spoiled me and i pit it against every other camera.

07-14-2011, 12:16 PM	#17
stanic Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Zakopane Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 389	this is interesting, when I got my K-x I also played with profiles in LR and never liked the look of "embedded" so I left it at adobe standard...rechecked this now with K5...hmm looks like the embedded really boosts the colours in sort of "warmer" WB, but if I just set the embedded profile leaving other values as before, the reds get overexposed, for example I never played with K10D raws otoh

07-14-2011, 10:01 PM	#18
Eruditass Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,207	I always liked adobe standard over embedded, especially with reds and violets. IMHO, of course.

07-14-2011, 11:11 PM	#19
Emacs Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Moscow Posts: 1,223	Google what is color target.

07-15-2011, 12:39 AM	#20
stanic Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Zakopane Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 389	so I guess my monitor is not colour managed then? if I observe colour shift changing the profiles from embedded to adobe standard?

07-15-2011, 06:06 AM	#22
wutsurstyle Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 29	So what is the difference between embedded and adobe standard? does embedded use the same profile used in creating pentax jpeg? i find default colors for red and purple to be a little on the magenta and pink side, respectively. i think the comment on "camera vs standard" has some truth to it, none are all correct. ALso, I think the quality of the lens has some effect before color reaches your sensor as raw data.

07-15-2011, 06:37 AM	#23
audiobomber Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sudbury, Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806	Originally posted by wutsurstyle ALso, I think the quality of the lens has some effect before color reaches your sensor as raw data. Definitely the lens is a factor, sometimes more of a factor than the body. I have a Kiron with a strong blue colour cast. I find my 18-135mm also punches up blues, although not as much as the Kiron. I never liked the colours from my Tamron 70-300mm, and from looking at photos on the net, some Sigmas seem overly warm.

07-15-2011, 07:46 AM	#24
stanic Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Zakopane Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 389	Originally posted by wutsurstyle I think the quality of the lens has some effect before color reaches your sensor as raw data. can confirm this - there is big difference between warmish rendering of my DA 35/2,8 and much cooler A 50/1,7

07-15-2011, 09:14 AM	#25
yusuf Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Palo Alto, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,497	Just wondering, when I open my k-x raw files in ACR, I don't see embedded profile. Am I missing anything?

07-16-2011, 03:52 AM	#26
Couscousdelight Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Frog-eaters country Photos: Gallery Posts: 357	Hi, I've prepared a little comparison between LR's camera profiles with a K-5. click here (click on the images to compare them). Best regards, Arno

07-16-2011, 04:33 AM	#27
audiobomber Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sudbury, Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806	Here's a comparison I did some time ago, showing K20D raw conversions for Adobe Camera Raw vs Pentax. I have a clear preference for Pentax colour rendition. There was nothing I could do to made Adobe files look like Pentax (Silkypix) files. https://picasaweb.google.com/bonhommed/RawConversions?authkey=Gv1sRgCLqHn5yU5o7scw#

07-16-2011, 04:34 AM	#28
audiobomber Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sudbury, Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806	Originally posted by Couscousdelight Hi, I've prepared a little comparison between LR's camera profiles with a K-5. click here (click on the images to compare them). Best regards, Arno Photos are not showing for me.

07-16-2011, 04:49 AM	#29
Couscousdelight Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Frog-eaters country Photos: Gallery Posts: 357	Originally posted by audiobomber Photos are not showing for me. Ho ? The photo roll-over effect is made with Adobe Flash, maybe you don't have Flash on your device ? Edit : Oh sh**, that stupid internet explorer doesn't show the flash files in my Wordpress blog, it works with all other navigators. I'll fix that. I HATE INTERNET EXPLORER !

07-16-2011, 05:08 AM	#30
Couscousdelight Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Frog-eaters country Photos: Gallery Posts: 357	Ok, it's fixed ! Thanks to Kimili embedded flash plugin for wordpress...