Originally posted by Schraubstock ...I purchased my K5 late in Feb. this year. I run 2 original PENTAX batteries together with an original PENTAX grip.
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So to me at least it indicates that the problems are temperature related. I have been in the unique position to have traveled through some extreme climate/temperature locations within a short time and pretty consistently the K5 works when it is cool but mucks up when it is hot.
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Originally posted by Jim Radcliffe Yes, I sent them an email this morning. No response yet.. but then, it is the weekend.
I'm more concerned that there might be a component in the camera circuitry that is degrading in some way as I never had the problem until recently (5 months useage). I am now less inclined to believe this is heat related as I have been able to force the malfunction even when the camera is at normal room temperature (74 degrees).
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Heat not only affects batteries, but it can affect the friction coefficient between any two sliding surfaces and it also affects the lubricating qualities of grease - to the extent that it is used.
Force (of friction) = Coefficient (of friction) X Load (force pushing the two surfaces together)
Really simple linear equation, the problem is the Coefficient can vary a lot. As two surfaces wear each other smooth, the coefficent can vary. I'm not sure how a mirror mechanism is designed, but if its required to move at up to 5 frames per second, its got to be pretty easy thing to operate (and quick). If they depend on a frictional component to keep the mirror in place against its spring, then that restraint mechanism (i.e. kept in place by a frictional force) can change in its effectiveness due to vary minute wear in the parts. These parts (plastic or metal) may not be worn out by any visual inspection, they just won't have the frictional resistance they had when new.
A funny story to lighten the topic:
Where i used to work as a mech. engr, a friend of mine was an electrical engineer (who didn't know much about friction
). His wife had talked him into painting their living room. As he placed his ladder in the living room to do the painting, she inserted cardboard between the bottom edges of the ladder and the waxed hardwood floors to prevent damage to the floor. As he ascended his ladder towards the cathedral ceiling (paintbrush in hand), there was a slight transfer of weight towards the wall, the load was reduced at the lower ladder edges, reducing the frictional restraint force, and the ladder started sliding away from the wall on its cardboard "sled". He tried to step off the ladder as it was going down which resulted in his leg hitting a bannister and fracturing. Other than walking around in a leg cast for a month or two, he survived in good shape. His wife no longer asks him to do work around the house, which he seems to appreciate.
We depend on friction all the time, e.g. your car won't stop in any practical period of time without friction from one's brakes. Its posssible that some cameras have a reduced friction problem due to wearing of parts. Because of the potential high rate of mirror movement (up to 5 frames a sec), that K5 mirror mechanism is going to wear surfaces together (thereby reducing friction between its parts) at a higher rate than say the K10 or K20.
It would be interesting to see if those reporting mirror flopping are using continuous rates of shooting more than those who are shooting singles. It could be that Pentax K5 is not up to a lot of continuous shooting with this particular mirror design.
I think Pentax probably bought their mirror mechanism from a third party, but i don't know that as a fact. This is a lot of conjecture on my part, not being willing to disassemble my K5