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twitch · 12-06-2011, 06:05 PM

I'm starting to use M mode more than TAv mode now, especially in poor, but consistantly poor (as in not changing), light. All it takes is a few test shots and chimping the histogram, and then you are set for the night. PP is much easier, and the results are better. TAv still has the problem of the camera varying the exposure shot to shot.

In inconsitent light of any sort, I still like TAv.

amoringello · 12-06-2011, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by hambone

Some turned out good, some were grainy. How do I post images?

Grainy is better than out of focus or blurred. :-)
Do you know what ISO the camera chose? ISO 10,000 is often acceptable.

Regardless, you will almost certainly need to obtain some sort of de-noise software.
But with the K5, the software will be able to do an outstanding job with reducing noise compared to what you might achieve with, lets say, even the K7!

If you are not shooting RAW, you may also find noise reduction software can squeak out better results from RAW than from JPEG... especially if white balance or exposure needs any adjustment.

hambone · 12-06-2011, 07:26 PM

I understand ISO.
as well as the how field of focus works with changing the aperture.
I started many moons a go with a Canon AE-1. I could make that camera jump through hoops. Unfortunately, that camera was stolen when my home was burglarized. The insurance company replace it with an Canon EOS Elan. Unfortunately that camera was stolen out of my car and it didn't make the threshold to file a claim.
I went to a point and shoot digital and learned to photoshop. Then, I bought a Pentax KI10D about 5 years ago. About 2 months ago, after 30,000 shots, the mirror stuck in the up position. About a week ago, I bought the K-5.

hambone · 12-06-2011, 07:55 PM

If you want to see my images, and you're on Facebook, go to "Captain Shreve gator Cup".

For last years images, go to Photobucket. search Ladygatorssoccer

humbr · 12-07-2011, 06:02 PM

Good shots, excellent timing on many to get the feeling of action. The K5 certainly worked out well at the ISO levels needed?

**Ex Finn.** · 12-07-2011, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by hambone

Some turned out good, some were grainy. How do I post images?

Easy, click on the paper-clip symbol( attachments) then browse you files and "up-load", do mind the max. file size.

hambone · 12-10-2011, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by Ex Finn.

Easy, click on the paper-clip symbol( attachments) then browse you files and "up-load", do mind the max. file size.

Check out the images at the link. https://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/photo.php?fbid=261299533926519&set=a.261...type=1&theater

Give me your thoughts. I'm still learning to use this camera. The mode was TAv. These images were shot at f3.5 1/400th and with the upper limit of the ISO set at 3200. So, I had to go lighten them up. I have since figured out how to move the upper limit ISO to 12,800.

**Ex Finn.** · 12-10-2011, 07:00 PM

Nice action shots despite the poor lighting conditions.

Originally posted by hambone

ISO set at 3200. So, I had to go lighten them up

Explains the amount of noise. Try Topaz De-noise, works good with JPEG`s and even better with RAW files.
I let ISO go to 8000 in TAv mode. Beyond that things get noisy and be better off shooting RAW. Kinda kills the fast burst AFC fun how ever.

dekao · 12-11-2011, 11:49 AM

i liked the pix!! Can u specify lenses?

hambone · 12-11-2011, 12:41 PM

Thanks,

Sigma EX 70-200 2.8II Macro HSM

hambone · 12-11-2011, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by Ex Finn.

Nice action shots despite the poor lighting conditions.

Explains the amount of noise. Try Topaz De-noise, works good with JPEG`s and even better with RAW files.
I let ISO go to 8000 in TAv mode. Beyond that things get noisy and be better off shooting RAW. Kinda kills the fast burst AFC fun how ever.

OK. How do I use Topaz de-noise?

Something I down load to the camera? Or, is that a program for the computer?

**Ex Finn.** · 12-11-2011, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by hambone

OK. How do I use Topaz de-noise?

Something I down load to the camera? Or, is that a program for the computer?

It is a photoshop plugin. Second best 80 bucks I spent in a long time.
www.topazlabs.com/denoise/
You can download a free 30 day trial to see if you like it.

Rupert · 12-12-2011, 01:13 AM

Yes, Tav...it is the most used setting on my K5. It takes the guesswork out of the ISO......you pick the speed needed and whatever the ISO needed is....it is.....(set the range you want) you don't have to guess or worry that you could have done better...as long as you have the correct speed you need. I use it on wildlife and Squirrels...but I can't talk about that here!

Regards & Good Luck!

hambone · 12-13-2011, 12:28 PM

I got the Topaz De-Noise.

Absolutely AMAZING!!!

**Ex Finn.** · 12-13-2011, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by hambone

I got the Topaz De-Noise.

Absolutely AMAZING!!!

Yes, it does a good job. Here is something else that might be of interest. This is my favorite program for correcting focus errors and motion-blur (within reason). It is a standalone but also works as a PS plug-in.
Recover Detail and Sharpen Your Blurred Photos
You can download it and try it free for 10 images. If you decide to get it, the e-mail with the authorization code takes a day or two to get.

12-10-2011, 07:00 PM	#23
Ex Finn. Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Maryland. Espoo. Kouvola. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,975	Nice action shots despite the poor lighting conditions. Originally posted by hambone ISO set at 3200. So, I had to go lighten them up Explains the amount of noise. Try Topaz De-noise, works good with JPEG`s and even better with RAW files. I let ISO go to 8000 in TAv mode. Beyond that things get noisy and be better off shooting RAW. Kinda kills the fast burst AFC fun how ever. Last edited by Ex Finn.; 12-11-2011 at 08:25 AM.

12-11-2011, 12:51 PM	#27
Ex Finn. Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Maryland. Espoo. Kouvola. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,975	Originally posted by hambone OK. How do I use Topaz de-noise? Something I down load to the camera? Or, is that a program for the computer? It is a photoshop plugin. Second best 80 bucks I spent in a long time. www.topazlabs.com/denoise/ You can download a free 30 day trial to see if you like it. Last edited by Ex Finn.; 12-11-2011 at 04:01 PM.

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12-06-2011, 06:05 PM	#16
twitch Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,571	I'm starting to use M mode more than TAv mode now, especially in poor, but consistantly poor (as in not changing), light. All it takes is a few test shots and chimping the histogram, and then you are set for the night. PP is much easier, and the results are better. TAv still has the problem of the camera varying the exposure shot to shot. In inconsitent light of any sort, I still like TAv.

12-06-2011, 06:12 PM	#17
amoringello Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Virginia, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,562	Originally posted by hambone Some turned out good, some were grainy. How do I post images? Grainy is better than out of focus or blurred. :-) Do you know what ISO the camera chose? ISO 10,000 is often acceptable. Regardless, you will almost certainly need to obtain some sort of de-noise software. But with the K5, the software will be able to do an outstanding job with reducing noise compared to what you might achieve with, lets say, even the K7! If you are not shooting RAW, you may also find noise reduction software can squeak out better results from RAW than from JPEG... especially if white balance or exposure needs any adjustment.

12-06-2011, 07:26 PM	#18
hambone Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 47 Original Poster	I understand ISO. as well as the how field of focus works with changing the aperture. I started many moons a go with a Canon AE-1. I could make that camera jump through hoops. Unfortunately, that camera was stolen when my home was burglarized. The insurance company replace it with an Canon EOS Elan. Unfortunately that camera was stolen out of my car and it didn't make the threshold to file a claim. I went to a point and shoot digital and learned to photoshop. Then, I bought a Pentax KI10D about 5 years ago. About 2 months ago, after 30,000 shots, the mirror stuck in the up position. About a week ago, I bought the K-5.

12-06-2011, 07:55 PM	#19
hambone Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 47 Original Poster	If you want to see my images, and you're on Facebook, go to "Captain Shreve gator Cup". For last years images, go to Photobucket. search Ladygatorssoccer

12-07-2011, 06:02 PM	#20
humbr Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: St Catharines Posts: 62	Good shots, excellent timing on many to get the feeling of action. The K5 certainly worked out well at the ISO levels needed?

12-07-2011, 06:25 PM	#21
Ex Finn. Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Maryland. Espoo. Kouvola. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,975	Originally posted by hambone Some turned out good, some were grainy. How do I post images? Easy, click on the paper-clip symbol( attachments) then browse you files and "up-load", do mind the max. file size.

12-10-2011, 05:08 PM	#22
hambone Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 47 Original Poster	Originally posted by Ex Finn. Easy, click on the paper-clip symbol( attachments) then browse you files and "up-load", do mind the max. file size. Check out the images at the link. https://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/photo.php?fbid=261299533926519&set=a.261...type=1&theater Give me your thoughts. I'm still learning to use this camera. The mode was TAv. These images were shot at f3.5 1/400th and with the upper limit of the ISO set at 3200. So, I had to go lighten them up. I have since figured out how to move the upper limit ISO to 12,800.

12-11-2011, 11:49 AM	#24
dekao Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Kraków - Poland Posts: 42	i liked the pix!! Can u specify lenses?

12-11-2011, 12:41 PM	#25
hambone Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 47 Original Poster	Thanks, Sigma EX 70-200 2.8II Macro HSM

12-11-2011, 12:43 PM	#26
hambone Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 47 Original Poster	Originally posted by Ex Finn. Nice action shots despite the poor lighting conditions. Explains the amount of noise. Try Topaz De-noise, works good with JPEG`s and even better with RAW files. I let ISO go to 8000 in TAv mode. Beyond that things get noisy and be better off shooting RAW. Kinda kills the fast burst AFC fun how ever. OK. How do I use Topaz de-noise? Something I down load to the camera? Or, is that a program for the computer?

12-12-2011, 01:13 AM	#28
Rupert Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 25,123	Yes, Tav...it is the most used setting on my K5. It takes the guesswork out of the ISO......you pick the speed needed and whatever the ISO needed is....it is.....(set the range you want) you don't have to guess or worry that you could have done better...as long as you have the correct speed you need. I use it on wildlife and Squirrels...but I can't talk about that here! Regards & Good Luck!

12-13-2011, 12:28 PM	#29
hambone Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 47 Original Poster	I got the Topaz De-Noise. Absolutely AMAZING!!!

12-13-2011, 02:56 PM	#30
Ex Finn. Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Maryland. Espoo. Kouvola. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,975	Originally posted by hambone I got the Topaz De-Noise. Absolutely AMAZING!!! Yes, it does a good job. Here is something else that might be of interest. This is my favorite program for correcting focus errors and motion-blur (within reason). It is a standalone but also works as a PS plug-in. Recover Detail and Sharpen Your Blurred Photos You can download it and try it free for 10 images. If you decide to get it, the e-mail with the authorization code takes a day or two to get.

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