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01-02-2012, 01:55 PM   #16
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I say your k-5 is defective, Just use your k10 and send the k-5 to me (;

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QuoteOriginally posted by Anvh Quote
How does using a different focus point change the colours?
I'd wager the metering is also different between both shots if focusing on different spots...

Did you try any of the other suggestions?
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QuoteOriginally posted by rtpguy Quote
I'd wager the metering is also different between both shots if focusing on different spots...

Did you try any of the other suggestions?
Depends on how the metering is set.

In matrix it would indeed include the focus point.
With centre weighted that is never the case
With spot mertering it's either the middle or the focus point, depends on how that option is set in the custom menu.

Was your second suggestion for me as well?
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Obviously the output from two different cameras are going to be different, even if the exposure setting are similar. The K10D uses a CCD sensor that accentuates the reds while the K-5 uses a CMOS sensor that to my eyes delivers a far more accurate color rendition. People who are used to the output from CCD sensors will always find that pictures from a CMOS camera to appear too cool. If set to AWB, the two cameras will most certainly render the same scene differently because they are two different cameras. Shooting indoors under incandescent lighting, the WB of the K-5 is a lot better than the K10D.


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I put the 2 JPEGs into XnView and looked at the BP & WP according to the histogram:

K10D: 11, 237
K-5: 6, 207

2 different exposures. I pulled both images to 0-255. K10D on left:




I don't like the K10D shot at all. Besides focus issues, the colours look washed out. Where's the grain detail of the flooor/benchtop? I prefer the K-5 shot on the right in every way.

If I was to change anything with the K-5 shot, I'd dodge it a bit, to brighten up the shadows without clipping the rest of the image. Here it is after processing the JPEG as a virtual raw file (I didn't bother downloading the DNG file as it was only for web display) in SilkyPix Pro 4 (+1/2 EV + dodging 50%):




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01-02-2012, 04:11 PM   #21
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Please go out and shoot as many shots as you can using various settings. The K5 is a superb camera and will give you a lifetime of quality of shots. But as we tell our children, practice makes perfect. Even if you have been shooting other cameras for years, this is a new one, with it's own quirks. Give it some time.
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I just recently got a K5 and like the original poster graduated from a K10. I still prefer the colours of the K10 to the K5 but I'm still experimenting. Just an observation but the colours from the K5 look more like those I see from Canon and Nikon. This is a tad disappointing as I always preferred the look of Pentax. I imagine time and further adjustments will get me closer to the look I want.

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@dosdan WoW.

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To my personal opinion, it is not that important how an image looks when it comes out of the camera. What important is what can be done with it afterwards. I consider RAW as a big bag full of information that needs to be arranged and that's what I do in PP.
A nice example of that 'arranging' is given by dosdan...

RAW (DNG) is indeed like a 'negative' that needs to be worked on in the darkroom now called LightRoom, nothing really new thus...
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First of all, it's different exposure, K10 is f2.4 at 1/180 and K5 is f2.5 at 1/250. Second of all, you set AWB, so camera will guess what balance it should use. K10 4900K and K5 6900K, also tint levels are different in LR, -3 vs +20. That's a big difference.

I've quickly adjusted exposure/WB inline with K10 and I made the colours pop more.

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Thats the great thing about the k5. You can post process like almost no other camera. Make the pictures look exactly how you want them to look without additional noise. Though i never really have a problem with the colors that come out of the camera using AWB most of the time.
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