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02-07-2012, 05:58 AM   #1
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K-5 with a Metz 44 AF-1 ... any experiences?

Bonjour,

I am thinking about a Metz 44 AF-1 to go with my K-5 (and K-r), but there seems to be some question as to whether it will work in "slave mode" ...

My local French camera store specialist said that they have severely limited their dealings with Metz (no in-house stock) because of "compatibility problems" ... and they even do not want to take back my possible order if the Metz 44 does not function as per manufacturer's descriptions upon my K-5 or K-r.

So, does anyone use this flash with your K-5 (or possibly another body, like the K-r) and what have you experienced?

Any input and/or advice would be greatly appreciated .... Merci d'avance!

Allez, salut - J Frog


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I have this flash and use it with my K200D and K-5. It works fine as a slave in wireless mode. (And in P-TTL and Manual modes). I like it for its simplistic user interface, the two-axis swivel head and then some more...

But you should be aware that it does have certain limitations: No high-speed sync (you will ned the 50 AF-1 for that) and no trailing curtain sync. The latter is Pentax specific, as Pentax needs trailing curtain to be set and controlled by the flash while Metz flashes need the camera body to set and control that mode. Perhaps that is what your sales person is thinking about when he mentions (Pentax) "compatibility problems"?

For me the simple interface (push buttons rather than menu) in the dark, the wireless capability and the two-way swivel head were decisive for my choice --- and after 9 months of use I am happy with that.
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I have the 48 AF-1 (predecesor to the 50 AF-1) and have used it extensively with a K200D as well as the K5. It has worked without a hitch in wireless mode, it does have high speed sync as well as rear curtain sync. Overall, it's worked out for me a lot better than the Pentax 360 FGZ, lot more durable and sturdy and better price/value ratio.
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Merci beacoup ...

QuoteOriginally posted by Stone G. Quote
I have this flash and use it with my K200D and K-5. It works fine as a slave in wireless mode. (And in P-TTL and Manual modes). I like it for its simplistic user interface, the two-axis swivel head and then some more...

But you should be aware that it does have certain limitations: No high-speed sync (you will ned the 50 AF-1 for that) and no trailing curtain sync. The latter is Pentax specific, as Pentax needs trailing curtain to be set and controlled by the flash while Metz flashes need the camera body to set and control that mode. Perhaps that is what your sales person is thinking about when he mentions (Pentax) "compatibility problems"?

For me the simple interface (push buttons rather than menu) in the dark, the wireless capability and the two-way swivel head were decisive for my choice --- and after 9 months of use I am happy with that.
Thanks Stone G,

I really appreciate your post ... and I think that you're right in your analysis, since I really was getting this info from two different salesmen who were addressing different issues.

I just wanted to double check on the wireless and I knew that high speed & trailing curtain sync's were not available at this price point ... I just want (and need) a good flash with the qualities that you cited ... thanks again for reassuring me in my selection.

Allez et salut, John

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QuoteOriginally posted by jase036 Quote
I have the 48 AF-1 (predecesor to the 50 AF-1) and have used it extensively with a K200D as well as the K5. It has worked without a hitch in wireless mode, it does have high speed sync as well as rear curtain sync. Overall, it's worked out for me a lot better than the Pentax 360 FGZ, lot more durable and sturdy and better price/value ratio.
Bonjour jase036,

Thanks for the info ... I was looking at the 360 FGZ for a while, but it's more expensive and lacks the double swivel head which is a deal breaker for me ... good to know that the wireless works well for the 48 AF-1.

Merci encore, John
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I have both the Metz 44 and the Pentax 360, the Pentax has more feature and the handy LCD panel but the lack of a swivel head is an absolute NIGHTMARE if you want to do portraits.
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Thanks - the swivel head was for the portrait work ... kid shots

QuoteOriginally posted by Alfisti Quote
I have both the Metz 44 and the Pentax 360, the Pentax has more feature and the handy LCD panel but the lack of a swivel head is an absolute NIGHTMARE if you want to do portraits.
Merci,

I would have gotten the 360 if it had the full swivel ... does your Metz 44 work well in wireless?

Salut, John
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Very pleased with my 44 AF-1 as well. The thing to ask any owner is, having used one would you buy it again? and in my case yes!

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Merci ...

QuoteOriginally posted by Arbalist Quote
Very pleased with my 44 AF-1 as well. The thing to ask any owner is, having used one would you buy it again? and in my case yes!
Bonjour Arbalist,

Thanks for your positive confirmation!

I have ordered the 44 AF-1, and hopefully it will arrive soon.

Looking forward to using it!

Salut - J
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All things comparative re: picking a pentax-compatible flash.

The Definitive Guide - Pentax P-TTL Flash Comparison

(unfortunately, not alot of actual 'in-usage' info)
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The 44 is terrific as long as you accept it's limitations. It's a great first flash head. The menu on the 50 is terrible. Either go with the 44 or 58.
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QuoteOriginally posted by krebsy97 Quote
The 44 is terrific as long as you accept it's limitations. It's a great first flash head. The menu on the 50 is terrible. Either go with the 44 or 58.
Bonsoir krebsy97,

Thanks for your advice ... the 44 does has its limitations (no HHS, second,etc.), but it'll "fit the bill" (and budget) for the time being ... if I want (or need) more, I'll maybe look at the 58 and/or subsecquent generations.

Thanks again et bonne soirée, J
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QuoteOriginally posted by jmg257 Quote
All things comparative re: picking a pentax-compatible flash.

The Definitive Guide - Pentax P-TTL Flash Comparison

(unfortunately, not alot of actual 'in-usage' info)
Thanks for this reference suggestion, J
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METZ 44 AF-1 is great ...

Bonjour,

Just FYI and thanks again to all for the advice, suggestions, etc.

I had ordered the flash from my local Phox camera store, but after a 4 week wait, I cancelled the order yesterday. Next went to the "Boulanger" electronics store and for 10 Euros more, walked out of the store with the flash in hand. I hate chain stores and try to support Phox, but this time they really couldn't cut the mustard, so to speak.

I have been testing the 44-AF1 late today and I really do like it ... great photos thus far of the kids and various other test subjects! Slave works fine and looking forward to further experiences/experiments and just general use of this flash.

So to conclude, MERCI ENCORE !!!

Allez et salut, John
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sounds like thumbs up all round for the 44-AF 1. I'm on the lookout for a decent, easy to use flash.
Is the menu on the 50 that bad?
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