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02-23-2012, 07:44 AM   #1
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Shutter count for new K5

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Does anyone know what initial shutter count one should expect on a new K5?

In January 2012 (about a month ago) I purchased a "new" K5 from a retailer in Sydney. I've since discovered (from exif info) that the shutter count on my first batch of photos, was already over 3,300. This seems rather high for a new, supposedly unused camera. I realise that some factory testing takes place & there'll always be some shutter activations before I get the camera but 3,300 seems a bit over the top. I am wondering if the camera I was sold as "new" had in fact been used already.

In addition it has a low serial number (about 3800000). In the serial number database most other K5s in this range of S/Ns were purchased about 18 months ago (late 2010 or early 2011).


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A new K5 has a count of zero. So I would say that that's not a new one.
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QuoteOriginally posted by sterretje Quote
A new K5 has a count of zero. So I would say that that's not a new one.
That's not true. And I seriously would hesitate to buy a camera with zero shuttercount, because that either means:
- the camera is new, and was not tested at all in the factory (quality control??)
- as I think that's highly unlikely, it also could be someone tampered with it somehow, so the count is actually much higher...

Having said that, 3300 does sound like too much for a new camera...
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QuoteOriginally posted by vloris Quote
That's not true.
Do you have a K5 ? Check the threads here

Pentax can reset the shutter count at the end of their QC process.

So no K5 for you

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You can check the build date of the body in the EXIF of a picture.

Mine was bought new in January '12 - built 2011-10-11 (not sure if that is Oct 11 or Nov 10), and had a shutter count of Zero.


Besides seeming used, & not new, early cameras had several serious issues - and your is VERY early (2010 & sensor stain early) so I would be definitely looking to return that K5 ASAP.

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It might be a refurb after the stain issue, you never know.

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Yes that's my suspicion, that it's been returned by someone else & refurbished. The manufacture date from the exif is 2010:10:14

I think I will definitely take it back & ask for a replacement.

The other thing which I didn't mention, is that it locked up on me once - I had to remove the battery to get it going again. That alone should be enough to get it replaced anyway...
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QuoteOriginally posted by tonyrodgers Quote
that it locked up on me once - I had to remove the battery to get it going again. That alone should be enough to get it replaced anyway...
It's a problem that happens more often. And a replacement might suffer from the same, so don't expect wonders regarding lockup. Mine has not suffered yet from the problem.

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Had the same thing mine K5 was on 1300.
Went back to the shop and they agreed should be on 0 got a new one with shutter on 0
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I bought my K-5 in mid jan 2012 too. Shutter count = 0.
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QuoteOriginally posted by vloris Quote
That's not true. And I seriously would hesitate to buy a camera with zero shuttercount, because that either means:
- the camera is new, and was not tested at all in the factory (quality control??)
- as I think that's highly unlikely, it also could be someone tampered with it somehow, so the count is actually much higher...

Having said that, 3300 does sound like too much for a new camera...
All three K-5s I've got (one of them was replacement for stained sensor), had zero shutter count.

New K-5 = zero shutter count.

Pentax DSLRs before K-5 had shutter 200-300 shutter counts out of the box.
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Shutter counts of somewhere around 10 or so seem to also be common. I think mine had 1 or 2 snaps on it. If you paid for a new camera it shouldn't have more than a few. 3000 is beyond unacceptable.
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Well if your camera is fine I would just go out and use it. The shutter is good for at least 100k, so what are the chances that you are in any danger?
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If I forked out money for a new camera then that is what I would expect to get. 0 shutter-count is correct. Take it back.
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Some people have short memories. When the K-20 was released, people complained about the camera arriving with hundreds of shutter activations after the lab tests. So Pentax/Hoya changed the policy and set the variable to zero for the K-5 release. Mine was zero for an early 3xxxxxx model. Not sure if refurbs enjoyed the same policy.

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