Quote: so what your saying is..only post if your pro Pentax K5 and dont give the op any other opinion other than a K5 is the better option...?....
Quote: .so get down off the pentax soapbox..and go look through the countless threads in the K5 forum that show front focus issues, floppy mirriors, buttons falling off etc etc ..the K5 was a great camera..marred by crap QC
ANd of course you've done your research on this and know for a fact that this is relevant issue, as in not an issue experienced by all camera makers? There's 30,000 Pentax users on this forum. If 200 had QC issues that would be something to brag about, but it might seem like a lot to someone like you who had a problem. How is Pentax's QC COMPARED TO OTHER CAMERA MAKERS QC, Because that is the only way that information is any way relevant. And your post is exactly what I'm talking about. You come on this site and mine the issues Pentax owners have, but unless you are doing the same to for other cameras and have some way of accurately saying what it means you don't really have a fair comparison do you? I've had no QC issue with my Pentax gear, two quality control issues with Sigma lenses, and one camera repair paid for by extended warranty, in 10 years with 4 different bodies. So if you want to go on about your perceived Pentax problems fine, you do that. But you think if it's in any way related to some kind of comparative reality on which someone should make purchasing decision you're out of line. It's anecdotal evidence, not science, and if you understood either critical thinking or science, you'd know what I'm talking about, without me having to explain it.
Quote: why am I still on a pentax forum.. mainly because Im still subscribed to a few threads that I posted in and Im still interested in what Pentax has to offer
And what does this have to do with that? You're coming on Pentax forums to offer your anecdotal unscientific evidence to people who are interested in buying Pentax product...so you get on my case for asking people who criticize Pentax here to keep those criticisms in perspective. .. you're obviously one of those who dominated the forum for awhile with their tales of woe... sorry things didn't work out for you. But what you're talking about affects very few users. Maybe you need to come to grips with that. Focussing on the woes of a few while ignoring the overall contentment of the majority is anti Pentax propaganda, sounds like you're a perp. Maybe you should spend more times reading threads like
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-5-forum/176696-after-12-months-i...ighted-k5.html , just to let you know your experience isn't everyone's experience, an then consider the relevance of your experience in the overall scheme of things.
I mean I can understand you're vendetta again Pentax, I'm sure they should have treated you better, but you should be the first to understand your reality was distorted by a bad experience. Let go of it dude, you'll live longer.
Quote: if the latest run have fixed the dodgy AF
And we quoted an actual study... people who don't care and don't have a bias, that was done way more recently than the long litany of posts about Pentax AF, that said the Pentax AF was second to none in terms of accuracy, yet you continue to harp on past issues. It's irrelevant... even if Pentax hasn't fixed the issue to the satisfaction of some on here, they are still more accurate than their competition, according to recent research. So why would you not buy a Pentax when the equivalent Nikon or Canon is worse? That is exactly the kind of internal bias I see constantly in these threads. Irrelevant anecdotal information spawned by a few bad experiences , the loud noise of a few complainers drowning out the hundreds of happy users who post on here every day.
But let someone say their thinking of switching, and all the folks like yourself come in and pile it on.
I get along fine with lots of Canon and Nikon users. We don't criticize each others gear, we just admire each other's pictures. Ask any of us about a camera and you'll here "Oh ya ----- gets great pictures with his --------- camera." coming from anyone of us...because really, that's the truth. Not once has one of our discussions fallen into this mindless finger pointing at one brands "perceived" limitations.