Originally posted by jeffshaddix Hey guys,
I've got a brand new K-5 with a significant front focus problem under low light and/or tungsten light. The problem seems to dissipate as the scene lighting increases. The problem is only exhibitted in PDAF, and can be seen with both AF lenses and MF lenses with the focus confirmation; contrast AF and manual focusing w/ focusing screen is fine. AF microadjust would need some -40 setting (which isn't available) to fix the FF in low light, but then of course causes back focus in daylight.
Clearly there's a problem with either the software or hardware related to my light wavelength sensor and PD AF module. At first I thought, "Hey no problem, I'm only using FW 1.01 and this was fixed with FW 1.03." So I updated to 1.13, but to no avail, still broken.
Thoughts? Should I send it to CRIS, or is this normal behavior? Falk's report makes it sound normal, but other users say otherwise and that it's repairable.
Has anybody sent their camera to CRIS for this? Did it help? How long did the repair take?
Thanks!
My K-5 FF under low tungsten light was corrected with firmware 1.03. I have not updated it past that point as I do not need any of the stuff that was in later firmware and I am happy with the AF and want to stay that way.
I have extensive tests with a lens align before/after 1.03 that clearly show the rearward offset after the firmware was installed.
BTW, I do not agree with Falk on this one based upon my tests and many real world shots before and after 1.03 (as well as extensive tests and shots with 3 K5s before 1.03). My K-5 does miss focus just a bit occasionally, and it seems to do so on a red or pinkish subject like a face filling the frame. This is pretty rare, however.
That being said, you mentioned 60-100 watt tungsten lighting conditions. Depending upon what lens you have on the camera, you could be outside of the specified range of the AF system.
The range low limit is -1 EV ISO 100 with the 50mm f1.4.
If you are using a slower lens than the 50mm f1.4, the low limit moves up accordingly because the AF module only gets as much light as the maximum aperture of the lens allows into the mirror box. For example a lens with a maximum aperture of f4.0 would move the lower limit to +1 EV and so on.
I have another body (new) on order and it will be interesting to see how it performs compared to my current body.
I suspect that you will need to send your camera in, but it would be useful to note the actual exposure data along with the lens used.
As for IR:
This theory has been kicking around since the original Pentax DSLRs were introduced as every single one of them (I have owned many of them) moved to FF in low tungsten light.
Hot mirror IR filters (expensive) have been tried with no improvement going back as far as the K10. I believe that the AF system already has an IR filter built-in anyway. The issue has never been fully explained for any of the bodies, at least as far as I am concerned. The K-5 just happens to have a color sensor built-in to the AF system, so Pentax could adjust the firmware to try and offset the AF system for the problem (which does seem to be related to color, and in this case reds), which I gather was the reason for this sensor in the first place.
It is interesting to note that the Nikon D7000, released about the same time as the K5, also has some sort of color sensing element in the AF system, and there are many complaints of focusing errors with it as well, but BF instead of FF. Apparently, whatever optical problem they were trying to solve is part and parcel to PDAF systems.
Ray