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04-10-2012, 08:51 AM   #46
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QuoteOriginally posted by eddie1960 Quote
It actually looks like an ok strap the flaw is in how it attaches



the problem with using the tripod mount as the strap mount is it can easily unscrew itself (it is not a locking screw after all) it is only a single point of restraint. i'll stick to neck type straps that i clip on to the body in 2 spots thanks, or use a hand strap (mostly i use no strap though and keep it in my bag unless i am shooting)
Totally agree. I've seen a few people using these type of straps and I wonder.... how long before glass hits pavement. This is truly a poor design, there is only a single point of failure. No thanks, I prefer normal straps. At least if one strap attachment fails, I have a chance to catch the camera before it hits the ground. Plus, you are not relying on a screw that can become loose and back out.

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There is no way I would ever use a retention device like that. Ugh.
My rule is...the camera is only "out" when taking pictures, and when so, the strap is around my neck. It's why I have so many bags/backpacks.

I think of all the times I have slipped and I am glad that the camera was in the backpack/bag.

Castles - in Wales - in the rain - are slippery!!!
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Castles - in Wales - in the rain - are slippery!!!


So are rocky shorelines in British Columbia on rainy days. I lost a flash to them when i went down (managed to protect the camera and lens but i was sore for a few days)
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QuoteOriginally posted by eddie1960 Quote
It actually looks like an ok strap the flaw is in how it attaches

the problem with using the tripod mount as the strap mount is it can easily unscrew itself (it is not a locking screw after all) it is only a single point of restraint. i'll stick to neck type straps that i clip on to the body in 2 spots thanks, or use a hand strap (mostly i use no strap though and keep it in my bag unless i am shooting)
I agree. I believe its the locktite company that sells a product to put on threads, that makes it a locking thread that won't easily unscrew. Relying on lockwashers, rubber washers, etc. give me a chill. They also sell even more permanent products that are quite difficult to remove, but i recommend the temporary one.

But i recommend the key ring approach to a single attachment point - no threads involved. Neck straps that lock onto two places aren't really that much better than a single spot, IMO. If even one attachment point gives way, then that strap can slip away from one's neck quite fast.

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QuoteOriginally posted by LaurenOE Quote
My rule is...the camera is only "out" when taking pictures, and when so, the strap is around my neck. It's why I have so many bags/backpacks.

I think of all the times I have slipped and I am glad that the camera was in the backpack/bag.
QuoteOriginally posted by eddie1960 Quote


So are rocky shorelines in British Columbia on rainy days. I lost a flash to them when i went down (managed to protect the camera and lens but i was sore for a few days)
What's that cliche: an ounce of Prevention is worth a pound of cure". I can think of more cases on PF where members had problems with rocky shores than any other situation. I have ankles that can roll over way too easily so i have a pair of very good boots with great ankle support. Keep them in the car and don't hesitate to put them on. I sort of think of them as my "four wheel drive". I also keep a pair of walking poles in the car, and sometimes will use one or two. They can be surprisingly helpful as well. For long walks, the walking poles make my legs feel less tired.

As to bags, i have a number as well and which one i take depends on a number of factors, as you folks all know
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What's that cliche: an ounce of Prevention is worth a pound of cure". I can think of more cases on PF where members had problems with rocky shores than any other situation. I have ankles that can roll over way too easily so i have a pair of very good boots with great ankle support. Keep them in the car and don't hesitate to put them on. I sort of think of them as my "four wheel drive". I also keep a pair of walking poles in the car, and sometimes will use one or two. They can be surprisingly helpful as well. For long walks, the walking poles make my legs feel less tired.

As to bags, i have a number as well and which one i take depends on a number of factors, as you folks all know
I was at a family thing and just out for a quick escape from everyone having a walk. I was actually wearing shoes that couldn't be less suited to the environment purple suede beatle boots with big cuban heels lol, so mostly my own fault for being vain, age has cured that

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the colour is off but these were the offending boots

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QuoteOriginally posted by philbaum Quote
What's that cliche: an ounce of Prevention is worth a pound of cure". I can think of more cases on PF where members had problems with rocky shores than any other situation. I have ankles that can roll over way too easily so i have a pair of very good boots with great ankle support. Keep them in the car and don't hesitate to put them on. I sort of think of them as my "four wheel drive". I also keep a pair of walking poles in the car, and sometimes will use one or two. They can be surprisingly helpful as well. For long walks, the walking poles make my legs feel less tired.

As to bags, i have a number as well and which one i take depends on a number of factors, as you folks all know
I was at a family thing and just out for a quick escape from everyone having a walk. I was actually wearing shoes that couldn't be less suited to the environment purple suede beatle boots with big cuban heels lol, so mostly my own fault for being vain, age has cured that


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the colour is off but these are the offending fashion statement

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Come on, half a page of link for ONE shoe?

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fixed lol
etsy isn't link (first try) friendly stole this from ebay, and they had 2 shoes
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No one ever left my classroom without the SLR strap around their neck and the camera in their hand. Alway double protect. If the strap breaks you have the hand. If the hand slip, there's still the strap. As well the first couple of weeks a constantly hounded them about leaving camera straps hanging over the edge of desks etc. My rule has been strap around your neck, camera in had since forever. That being said, between the wife and I, we had a tripod blow over causing $200 damage to our 21 Ltd. Then shortly after a K-x with the 21 on it again somehow fell off a counter and had to be replaced $350, but at least now we have a white one. So $550 dollars just this year so far. You just can't be too careful. And when bad luck gets you, you're got, nothing you can do about it. I'm starting to think with the amount of gear I have right now, insurance is the only answer. Or just find out what the insurance premium would be and put that much every month into a bank account. That'll get you a new lens every now and then.
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No one ever left my classroom without the SLR strap around their neck and the camera in their hand. Always double protect. If the strap breaks you have the hand. If the hand slips, there's still the strap. As well the first couple of weeks I constantly hounded them about leaving camera straps hanging over the edge of desks etc. and spied on them out shooting around the school ground to make sure protocol was being followed. My rule has been strap around your neck, camera in had since forever. That being said, between the wife and I, we had a tripod blow over causing $200 damage to our 21 Ltd. The shortly after a K-x with the 21 on it again somehow fell off a counter and had to be replaced $350, but at least now we have a white one. So $550 dollars just this year so far. You just can't be too careful. And when bad luck gets you, you're got, nothing you can do about it. I'm starting to think with the amount of gear I have right now, insurance is the only answer. Or just find out what the insurance premium would be and put that much every month into a bank account. That'll get you a new lens every now and then.

Either that or we have to sell that darn jinxed 21ltd.
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It's funny how this thread started and how it develops about shoes Anyway my damaged k5 is at a repair place for cleaning sensor and get a second opinion.As for the strap issue mentioned before I use the strap because is the best in terms of easiness and speed.What do I mean by that.Well I walk around town and I like to snap a photo when something is happening or it develops that moment in front of me.If i have to take the bag in front, unzip, take out the camera, and shoot well,i have lost it.Also the weight distribution is amazing!I can walk all day without feel tired of carrying it.At the begging I used the Pentax original strap, which first I find it short for my taste, second all the weight goes to the back of my neck.So this is how I made it safer today.The parts I use are climbing equipment and can hold up to 80kg.If the strap's screw fails again the rest will hold the camera.
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I'm highly interested, hasn't anyone come up with a three-point system - tripod mount and both strap attachment points?
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It's funny how this thread started and how it develops about shoes Anyway my damaged k5 is at a repair place for cleaning sensor and get a second opinion.As for the strap issue mentioned before I use the strap because is the best in terms of easiness and speed.What do I mean by that.Well I walk around town and I like to snap a photo when something is happening or it develops that moment in front of me.If i have to take the bag in front, unzip, take out the camera, and shoot well,i have lost it.Also the weight distribution is amazing!I can walk all day without feel tired of carrying it.At the begging I used the Pentax original strap, which first I find it short for my taste, second all the weight goes to the back of my neck.So this is how I made it safer today.The parts I use are climbing equipment and can hold up to 80kg.If the strap's screw fails again the rest will hold the camera.
hat looks like a smart solution (the strap should ship that way)
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Well, I give you all my understanding. My K-5 plus A*600 fell from the tripod on my shoulder on the stairs of my home, the lens hood took ground first and adsorbed the hurt, but then the camera detached form the lens leaving the bayonet on it. I sent the camera to the Italian Pentax authorized tech lab, they have to replace the whole of the mirror box because that's where the bayonet screws hold on, and two of five holes are damaged. In the end, it's 55 euros for the new mirror box, 300 euros for hand work, plus 21% of VAT on the sum. Still a lot less than a new K-5, but...
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