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05-03-2012, 01:41 AM   #1
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Digital preview... is it a shutter count?

Been wondering if i use the digital preview (RAW/FX button), does it ever count as a shutter count?
As i was analyzing, it should be a shutter count....
but then here comes the twist...
we know that we can save this digital preview by using the AE-L button right?
so back to the question again...
does it count as a shutter count now?

just finished reading the manual and NO mention about it...

05-03-2012, 02:28 AM   #2
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Shouldn't that be easy to check? Take a photo, check the shutter count (e.g. with photome). Next use digital preview. Next take a photo and check the shutter count again. Same with a scenario where you save the digital preview.

PS For me it makes sense that it is a count. Mirror goes up, shutter opens and closes.
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If the shutter does what a shutters suppose to do then I'd say yes.
I don't think this would have anything to do with whether the image is saved or not.

I look at it this way, if you put 5 miles on your car, do you think the transmission should only record the mileage if there are people in the car?
Okay that was a pretty lame comparisson but you get the idea right?

Anyways, best thing is to try it out and see what the EXIF says about it. I never looked myself but I'd be interested in knowing for sure.
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QuoteOriginally posted by sterretje Quote
Shouldn't that be easy to check? Take a photo, check the shutter count (e.g. with photome). Next use digital preview. Next take a photo and check the shutter count again. Same with a scenario where you save the digital preview.

PS For me it makes sense that it is a count. Mirror goes up, shutter opens and closes.
Ah and then can you check if a sensor clean is also counted?

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QuoteOriginally posted by JohnBee Quote

I look at it this way, if you put 5 miles on your car, do you think the transmission should only record the mileage if there are people in the car?
Okay that was a pretty lame comparisson but you get the idea right?
i look at it, if you start the car every day and rev it cold but never drive it, it will have 0 milage after a year possibly with a failed engine
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i look at it, if you start the car every day and rev it cold but never drive it, it will have 0 milage after a year possibly with a failed engine
HAHAHAHAHA!
Now that would be one funny scenario, in an ironic sort of way. LOL
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Personally, I find digital preview a bit of a waste of space - you have to take your eye off the viewfinder to view the image & loose your composition in the process!
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Why are you guys so hung up on shutter count? Do you seriously believe your camera will fail on the 100,001th actuation?

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Why are you guys so hung up on shutter count? Do you seriously believe your camera will fail on the 100,001th actuation?
No, but buying or selling a used K-5 it is a main consideration.

NaCl(it's highly doubtful that I'll have my K-5 for 50K shutter actuations, much less 100K! )H2O
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Why are you guys so hung up on shutter count? Do you seriously believe your camera will fail on the 100,001th actuation?
I hope not since I'm running towards 100k with one of my K-5's.
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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
I hope not since I'm running towards 100k with one of my K-5's.
Well, ensure you dispose of it thoughtfully, after the 100k shot.
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QuoteOriginally posted by JohnBee Quote
If the shutter does what a shutters suppose to do then I'd say yes.
I don't think this would have anything to do with whether the image is saved or not.

I look at it this way, if you put 5 miles on your car, do you think the transmission should only record the mileage if there are people in the car?
Okay that was a pretty lame comparisson but you get the idea right?

Anyways, best thing is to try it out and see what the EXIF says about it. I never looked myself but I'd be interested in knowing for sure.
I don't know about the new electronics but the older mechanical odometers only recorded mileage going forward and not backing up. It will really depend on whether they want to count it I suppose. If the shutter opens and closes, then it performed the same function as any other shot whether it is saved or not. It would require some extra programming for the camera to ignore it so it would be easier to count it.
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My parents car had an odo that actually went backwards when you reversed it.

So "back in the day", on the occasions when I was grounded and not allowed to visit my girlfriend 5 kms away, and they went out for the night, I got a lot of reversing practice in Let just say the Odo was always the same as when they went out (they use to check!). To this day I’m pretty handy at reversing a car
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QuoteOriginally posted by twitch Quote
My parents car had an odo that actually went backwards when you reversed it.

So "back in the day", on the occasions when I was grounded and not allowed to visit my girlfriend 5 kms away, and they went out for the night, I got a lot of reversing practice in Let just say the Odo was always the same as when they went out (they use to check!). To this day Iím pretty handy at reversing a car
LOL sounds like something I would have done!
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QuoteOriginally posted by selar Quote
Why are you guys so hung up on shutter count? Do you seriously believe your camera will fail on the 100,001th actuation?
Who? Not me. At the current rate it will take me 30 years to get to 100K
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