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Anvh · 08-29-2012, 09:14 AM

Which laptop is that then?

treebeard · 08-29-2012, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by creampuff

Well you're definitely entitled to your opinion but I doubt you've used the K-5 longer than I have going by your posts. I've been one of the earliest to own the K-5, having shot many thousands of exposures with it. The core specs of the K-5 is good but I've found focus accuracy of the K-5 can be off over time. It has happened to me, necessitating a change of the sensor mechanism by Pentax Japan. This is not the "string of pearls" sensor issue which early K-5 units had. My suspicion, (and this I can't verify this) is somehow the SR mechanism goes off spec over time. This is probably why AF adjustment in the body couldn't solve the AF accuracy issues I had with some of my lenses.

Sure I love the specs of the K-5 like the silent shutter, build quality, frame rate, etc. but what good is all of that if AF focus goes off? If the camera misfocuses ever so slightly, all the best lenses you put on it can't deliver pin sharp images. The fact that I've found LV shots were sharper then thru the viewfinder on the K-5 was telling for me. And trust me, I've put in thousands of exposures to know what I'm talking about.

My own brief informal testing of the pre-production K-30 already told me the camera locks focus with less hesitation compared to the K-5 and using a friend's new K-30 confirmed that AF focus was spot on straight out of the box. Now of course I can't speculate whether this will change over time but as for me the AF on the K-30 is spot on, outdoors and indoors. Maybe for a late K-5 adopter like yourself, all is still good and I'm happy you enjoy your camera. As for me, the K-5 is history for me, just like the K-r, K-7, K20, K10, K100D Super, K100D cameras that I once owned.

I have never heard of the AF of a camera "degrading" over time. Is there a thread on this "issue" somewhere?

Rickster · 09-18-2012, 09:16 PM

Originally posted by Anvh

Which laptop is that then?

Alienware M17X - R4 3D

Anvh · 09-19-2012, 10:39 AM

There is nothing on you screenshot about HDMI but i got it from a review.
The screen can indeed be used with HDMI so i stand corrected even though it's most likely the only laptop.

Rickster · 09-21-2012, 10:16 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Anvh

There is nothing on you screenshot about HDMI but i got it from a review.
The screen can indeed be used with HDMI so i stand corrected even though it's most likely the only laptop.

Sorry about that ... of the three Alienware laptops, the M17X and the M18X have HDMI 1.3 inputs ...

External Chassis Connections
(1x) Power/DC-in Jack
(4x) SuperSpeed USB 3.0 Ports
(1x) eSATA 3Gb/s + USB 2.0 Combo port (with PowerShare Technology)
(3x) Auto-sensing jacks for Line-out (2 line out; 1x SPDIF/Headphone)
(1x) Microphone Input jack
(1x) RJ-45 (10/100/1Gb IPv6)
(1x) HDMI-1.4 output with Audio
(1x) HDMI-1.3 input with Audio
(1x) mini-Display Port
(1x) VGA Port (DB-15)
(1x) 9-in-1 Media card reader

Anvh · 09-21-2012, 10:58 AM

Very interesting too bad it isn't 1.4 though for 3D

Rickster · 09-22-2012, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by Anvh

Very interesting too bad it isn't 1.4 though for 3D

Yes, strange, and the laptop has a 120HZ LED LCD 3D display. They have 1.4 on the HDMI output. Go figure.

dinneenp · 10-11-2012, 04:01 AM

I have a K-7, going to upgrade to a K-5 (2nd hand) and not a K30.

I went from a K--X to K-7 and love the K-7. I really like the top panel LCD and the extra external buttons (the easier/quicker to use the more often you'll use them I've found).
I don't shoot in RAW or have any WR lenses but think I'd really miss the features I mentioned.

captainbert · 10-11-2012, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by dinneenp

I have a K-7, going to upgrade to a K-5 (2nd hand) and not a K30.

I went from a K--X to K-7 and love the K-7. I really like the top panel LCD and the extra external buttons (the easier/quicker to use the more often you'll use them I've found).
I don't shoot in RAW or have any WR lenses but think I'd really miss the features I mentioned.

I have a K5 and would sorely miss the top lcd and ability to change any setting by buttons at hand. I was considering a K30 as a backup but ruled it out for those very reasons as it makes life out shooting in the field so much easier! I'd pick a used a k5 over a new K30 any day!

scheery · 07-25-2013, 04:43 AM

I don't think anyone has mentioned K5 has PC flash plug. Focus peaking in K30 would be handy for me (manual lenses). However I have heard it can be difficult in bright light since it highlights focus area in white. I can always use catch in focus techniquewith K5 if I want critical focus. K30s louder shutter big negative for when I shoot birds especially from a hide. I am leaning to an upgrade from my K7 to a K5 despite slightly higher cost. Other reasons I think are - more rugged, mirror lock-up for long exposures (K30?) can use same batteries from my K7 & has more familiar operation to my K7.

edgedemon · 07-25-2013, 05:41 AM - **1 Like**

Im going numpty on everyone here
If you upgrade from a k-x, then either camera will be a nice upgrade for you.
Yes, you can look at the spec sheets, I did this and was tying myself up in knots over what to do as I had wanted a K5 for such a long time, but liked the better Af and focus peaking of the K30.
I had a sensible moment and went for the K30 and I don't regret it for a minute, superb little camera and I have become addicted to using manual glass with the focus peaking - a whole world of cheap fun..
The only thing I miss is the exanded bracketing for HDR, otherwise I am over the moon with my K30

IchabodCrane · 07-25-2013, 05:44 AM

Originally posted by scheery

I don't think anyone has mentioned K5 has PC flash plug. Focus peaking in K30 would be handy for me (manual lenses). However I have heard it can be difficult in bright light since it highlights focus area in white. I can always use catch in focus techniquewith K5 if I want critical focus. K30s louder shutter big negative for when I shoot birds especially from a hide. I am leaning to an upgrade from my K7 to a K5 despite slightly higher cost. Other reasons I think are - more rugged, mirror lock-up for long exposures (K30?) can use same batteries from my K7 & has more familiar operation to my K7.

I think the K-30 exposure length is only limited by how much battery power you have.

FabioPirovano · 06-21-2014, 08:53 AM

K5 could work great with manual lens as SMC A 50mm f 1.7?

**boriscleto** · 06-21-2014, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by FabioPirovano

K5 could work great with manual lens as SMC A 50mm f 1.7?

Yes, the K-5 is great with manual lenses. But focusing may be easier with the K-30/K-50 because of focus peaking.

FabioPirovano · 06-21-2014, 07:32 PM

Thanks, I had a chance for buy one 200€ brand new ( I got one amazing K30) and I would not do any step backwards..so no focus peaking with any firmware for K5???I use to shoot by night many many times... K5IIs o K5II more suitable?????

07-25-2013, 04:43 AM	#130
scheery New Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 3	advantages of K5 I don't think anyone has mentioned K5 has PC flash plug. Focus peaking in K30 would be handy for me (manual lenses). However I have heard it can be difficult in bright light since it highlights focus area in white. I can always use catch in focus techniquewith K5 if I want critical focus. K30s louder shutter big negative for when I shoot birds especially from a hide. I am leaning to an upgrade from my K7 to a K5 despite slightly higher cost. Other reasons I think are - more rugged, mirror lock-up for long exposures (K30?) can use same batteries from my K7 & has more familiar operation to my K7.

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08-29-2012, 09:14 AM	#121
Anvh Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4,616	Which laptop is that then?

08-29-2012, 05:19 PM	#122
treebeard Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Windham, NH Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 793	Originally posted by creampuff Well you're definitely entitled to your opinion but I doubt you've used the K-5 longer than I have going by your posts. I've been one of the earliest to own the K-5, having shot many thousands of exposures with it. The core specs of the K-5 is good but I've found focus accuracy of the K-5 can be off over time. It has happened to me, necessitating a change of the sensor mechanism by Pentax Japan. This is not the "string of pearls" sensor issue which early K-5 units had. My suspicion, (and this I can't verify this) is somehow the SR mechanism goes off spec over time. This is probably why AF adjustment in the body couldn't solve the AF accuracy issues I had with some of my lenses. Sure I love the specs of the K-5 like the silent shutter, build quality, frame rate, etc. but what good is all of that if AF focus goes off? If the camera misfocuses ever so slightly, all the best lenses you put on it can't deliver pin sharp images. The fact that I've found LV shots were sharper then thru the viewfinder on the K-5 was telling for me. And trust me, I've put in thousands of exposures to know what I'm talking about. My own brief informal testing of the pre-production K-30 already told me the camera locks focus with less hesitation compared to the K-5 and using a friend's new K-30 confirmed that AF focus was spot on straight out of the box. Now of course I can't speculate whether this will change over time but as for me the AF on the K-30 is spot on, outdoors and indoors. Maybe for a late K-5 adopter like yourself, all is still good and I'm happy you enjoy your camera. As for me, the K-5 is history for me, just like the K-r, K-7, K20, K10, K100D Super, K100D cameras that I once owned. I have never heard of the AF of a camera "degrading" over time. Is there a thread on this "issue" somewhere?

09-18-2012, 09:16 PM	#123
Rickster Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: SE Idaho - Rocky Mtns Photos: Gallery Posts: 580	Originally posted by Anvh Which laptop is that then? Alienware M17X - R4 3D

09-19-2012, 10:39 AM	#124
Anvh Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4,616	There is nothing on you screenshot about HDMI but i got it from a review. The screen can indeed be used with HDMI so i stand corrected even though it's most likely the only laptop.

09-21-2012, 10:16 AM - 1 Like	#125
Rickster Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: SE Idaho - Rocky Mtns Photos: Gallery Posts: 580	Originally posted by Anvh There is nothing on you screenshot about HDMI but i got it from a review. The screen can indeed be used with HDMI so i stand corrected even though it's most likely the only laptop. Sorry about that ... of the three Alienware laptops, the M17X and the M18X have HDMI 1.3 inputs ... External Chassis Connections (1x) Power/DC-in Jack (4x) SuperSpeed USB 3.0 Ports (1x) eSATA 3Gb/s + USB 2.0 Combo port (with PowerShare Technology) (3x) Auto-sensing jacks for Line-out (2 line out; 1x SPDIF/Headphone) (1x) Microphone Input jack (1x) RJ-45 (10/100/1Gb IPv6) (1x) HDMI-1.4 output with Audio (1x) HDMI-1.3 input with Audio (1x) mini-Display Port (1x) VGA Port (DB-15) (1x) 9-in-1 Media card reader

09-21-2012, 10:58 AM	#126
Anvh Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4,616	Very interesting too bad it isn't 1.4 though for 3D

09-22-2012, 09:17 AM	#127
Rickster Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: SE Idaho - Rocky Mtns Photos: Gallery Posts: 580	Originally posted by Anvh Very interesting too bad it isn't 1.4 though for 3D Yes, strange, and the laptop has a 120HZ LED LCD 3D display. They have 1.4 on the HDMI output. Go figure.

10-11-2012, 04:01 AM	#128
dinneenp Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: ireland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 166	I have a K-7, going to upgrade to a K-5 (2nd hand) and not a K30. I went from a K--X to K-7 and love the K-7. I really like the top panel LCD and the extra external buttons (the easier/quicker to use the more often you'll use them I've found). I don't shoot in RAW or have any WR lenses but think I'd really miss the features I mentioned.

10-11-2012, 10:45 AM	#129
captainbert Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Derry Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 776	Originally posted by dinneenp I have a K-7, going to upgrade to a K-5 (2nd hand) and not a K30. I went from a K--X to K-7 and love the K-7. I really like the top panel LCD and the extra external buttons (the easier/quicker to use the more often you'll use them I've found). I don't shoot in RAW or have any WR lenses but think I'd really miss the features I mentioned. I have a K5 and would sorely miss the top lcd and ability to change any setting by buttons at hand. I was considering a K30 as a backup but ruled it out for those very reasons as it makes life out shooting in the field so much easier! I'd pick a used a k5 over a new K30 any day!

07-25-2013, 05:41 AM - 1 Like	#131
edgedemon Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: London Photos: Albums Posts: 309	Im going numpty on everyone here If you upgrade from a k-x, then either camera will be a nice upgrade for you. Yes, you can look at the spec sheets, I did this and was tying myself up in knots over what to do as I had wanted a K5 for such a long time, but liked the better Af and focus peaking of the K30. I had a sensible moment and went for the K30 and I don't regret it for a minute, superb little camera and I have become addicted to using manual glass with the focus peaking - a whole world of cheap fun.. The only thing I miss is the exanded bracketing for HDR, otherwise I am over the moon with my K30

07-25-2013, 05:44 AM	#132
IchabodCrane Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,728	Originally posted by scheery I don't think anyone has mentioned K5 has PC flash plug. Focus peaking in K30 would be handy for me (manual lenses). However I have heard it can be difficult in bright light since it highlights focus area in white. I can always use catch in focus techniquewith K5 if I want critical focus. K30s louder shutter big negative for when I shoot birds especially from a hide. I am leaning to an upgrade from my K7 to a K5 despite slightly higher cost. Other reasons I think are - more rugged, mirror lock-up for long exposures (K30?) can use same batteries from my K7 & has more familiar operation to my K7. I think the K-30 exposure length is only limited by how much battery power you have.

06-21-2014, 08:53 AM	#133
FabioPirovano Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Torino Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 75	K5 could work great with manual lens as SMC A 50mm f 1.7?

06-21-2014, 09:53 AM	#134
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Originally posted by FabioPirovano K5 could work great with manual lens as SMC A 50mm f 1.7? Yes, the K-5 is great with manual lenses. But focusing may be easier with the K-30/K-50 because of focus peaking.

06-21-2014, 07:32 PM	#135
FabioPirovano Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Torino Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 75	Thanks, I had a chance for buy one 200€ brand new ( I got one amazing K30) and I would not do any step backwards..so no focus peaking with any firmware for K5???I use to shoot by night many many times... K5IIs o K5II more suitable?????

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