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07-08-2012, 07:07 AM   #1
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Party Clab Bar photo question

Hello,

Yesterday a friend of mine asked me to take some pictures in a club.
is almost dark there.

I was using Flash (camera built in) and P mode.
I had 2 lenses 18-135 and F 28mm 2.8.

most of the pictures were out of focus, I had used the AF asist light.

The canon T2i took better and sharper pictures then me.


can you advice on how to take pictures with the K-5, on those situations.

what to do? what settings to use? what accessories to add?

I was a bit disappointed, but I am sure the K-5 can perform in this situation.



Thank you


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QuoteOriginally posted by karelson Quote
Hello,

Yesterday a friend of mine asked me to take some pictures in a club.
is almost dark there.

I was using Flash (camera built in) and P mode.
I had 2 lenses 18-135 and F 28mm 2.8.

most of the pictures were out of focus, I had used the AF asist light.

The canon T2i took better and sharper pictures then me.


can you advice on how to take pictures with the K-5, on those situations.

what to do? what settings to use? what accessories to add?

I was a bit disappointed, but I am sure the K-5 can perform in this situation.



Thank you
Make sure that the built-in assist light is actually coming on and illuminating the subject. The light can get blocked by the lens if the lens is large, extends a lot, or has a hood on. It can get blocked by your finger as well.

I would imagine your 28 f2.8 would not block the light ,much if at all, however.

I find the built-in light to not be very effective, especially if you are more than a few meters away and using a wide angle lens (say below 20mm or so). The AF540 assist light is much better. It does not get blocked so easily, and it seems to be stronger. It also projects a stripe pattern which also seems to be more effective than the built-in light.

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07-08-2012, 08:44 AM   #3
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QuoteOriginally posted by karelson Quote
Party Clab Bar
I know I am going to regret this, but what is a "clab bar"?

To answer your question, yes you can get better with the k-5 but there are some things to keep in mind. First, the SR function on Pentax can take a little getting used to, you have to wait until the green hand tells you all is good before shooting. Second, one trick I use is to focus twice. Focus on the subject, let the button go and then focus again on the precise point you want in focus, their eye perhaps. Third, I assume you were shooting wide open? That means the depth of focus is very shallow so while something might be in focus, it might not be what you wanted. Fourth, the on board flash is not the best for this type of situation, you really need a good hot shoe flash, preferably with a big AF light as noted above.

Post some pictures with the EXIF intact and you should get better answers though, it is hard to make comments without seeing what really happened.
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Stick to using the 28mm. Stop it down to f/8. Pre-focus at 5ft and then turn AF OFF. Position yourself 5 feet away from your subjects when you shoot. You'll probably have to up the ISO to get a good exposure, but you'll be able to shoot quickly, and most of your pictures will be sharp..
Essentially, you're converting your K5 into a point&shoot that has outstanding IQ ;-)

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I know I am going to regret this, but what is a "clab bar"?
No you are not

my bad I mean Club and Bar........once you post it you can't edit the name
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QuoteOriginally posted by karelson Quote
No you are not

my bad I mean Club and Bar........once you post it you can't edit the name
I was actually going to guess "clam bar" but figured that was too obvious. And since I'm not up on the club scene who knows what is going on out there. Heck, I'm a 30 minute drive to the nearest Starbucks let alone "clab bar"
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I think, if you intend to do that more often , it would be a good idea to get a real flash, and use the "auto-focus spot beam" (the red light) which is less intrusive than the green light of the k5 and work best in club environment. (IMO).

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QuoteOriginally posted by jatrax Quote
I was actually going to guess "clam bar" but figured that was too obvious.
Worse, "clan bar" is actually closer on the keyboard!



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will the Pentax AF-360 FGZ Autofocus do the Job for me?
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In my opinion, the red AF assist on the flash (in my case a 540 FGZ) is more accurate than that on the camera. Either way, dark clubs will be hard on any AF system. The image stabilization advice given above is very useful, too. If DOF is an issue, I'd recommend shooting in A mode instead of P.

In any case, I'd recommend the off-camera flash for shooting in the kind of environment you are shooting in unless you don't mind your subjects looking like red-eyed ghosts in your closeups. The flash sync speed will also stay stable (not sure if it varies with the on-camera flash), meaning that blur (rather than focus) problems should be minimized, and any problems will tend to be exposure-related, which is more easily fixed in post.
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