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08-13-2012, 01:31 AM   #1
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Fish Eye for K5

Hello,

i want to get some fisheye glasses. Does anyone here have them? I am considering Walimex Pro 8 mm 1:3,5 or the one from Pentax SMC DA 10-17mm.
Sigmas have AF but are quite costly.
If anyone had the opportunity to shoot with any of these, please comment.

08-13-2012, 02:13 AM   #2
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I've played around a bit with the Samyang (same as Walimex) 8mm fisheye. It's a really nice lens. It's not AF, but who cares, really? At 8mm, pretty much everything is in focus anyway. Colors and sharpness are good, and it's not that expensive.

I've never tried the Pentax (or Tokina) 10-17. but what I've read is that the zoom controls the FE effect, which might be nice.

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I have the DA10-17. It's not my most used lens, but it's very good. Keep in mind that the zoom allows you to get just the amount of distortion you want. At 17mm, the distortion is small enough you can use it almost like a ~12mm rectilinear wide-angle lens. The colors are also very much like (and almost as good as) the DA15, which means some of the best colors you can get in a Pentax lens.

I think you'll like the versatility of having the zoom with the fisheye, even if you normally prefer primes.
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I love my DA 10-17. It's a very fun lens. The zoom feature is very nice, as you can control how prominent the fisheye-effect is. At the 17 end it's not that prominent; not even there if you compose wisely. But at 10mm it's extreme. (180 degree FOV) Also, I love the close focussing distance, I often find myself getting very close to my subjects. Oh, and the AF is lightning quick, but that's the case with all AF fisheyes.

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QuoteOriginally posted by topace Quote
I've never tried the Pentax (or Tamron) 10-17.
The 10-17 is made by Tokina - I believe that's what you meant. I never tried the Samyang, but it sounds good. However, I can say having the zoom has been quite valuable to me.
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QuoteOriginally posted by DSims Quote
The 10-17 is made by Tokina - I believe that's what you meant.
Yes, that's what I meant. It seems my brain doesn't really function on a monday morning.
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For a Little more info from many different reviews check the review section for: (click the link to lens)

Pentax DA 10-17mm Fisheye

Sigma 4.5mm fisheye

Sigma 10mm Fisheye
Sigma 15mm Fisheye

Samyang 8mm Fisheye

I have personally put the DA10-17 on my to-be-acquired list, as it give great performance plus flexibility, which for a fisheye is rare. It is very fishy (distorted) at the 10mm but not too fishy at 17mm.
plus it has close minimum focus for great perspectives.
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I have the Pentax DA 10-17 & I love it. The ability to go from a very fishy fisheye to a more standard wide angle is a big plus. It also is quite sharp with awesome colors. nice build quality, too. As Chaos Realm mentioned, the close focusing distance makes it great for unique fisheye "macro" shots. I think it's a jewel of a lens.

Didn't know it was made by Tokina, though. Huh...

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While the Pentax DA10-17 is not as extreme as the others, its advantage is indeed the fact that the effect can be controlled by the zoom. This means that the effect can be applied with some variation and as such it doesn't "tire" as much. More extreme fisheyes (I used to own a Peleng 8mm) make it harder to put some variation in your images. I have found that esp the viewers of my images tired very fast of the effect (after seeing as few as 3 to 5 images), so I've learned to apply it very sparingly (and no longer at 8mm, so I sold the Peleng).

If you're looking for the extreme effect and believe your creativity alone will ensure sufficient variation of the effect, a 8mm fisheye may be a better solution. Or if you're wanting to do 360 degrees panoramas. In that case 8mm will enable you to cover all in about 6 shots (four around you at 90 degree angles, one up and one down, possibly one more to eliminate the base of the tripod), whereas I found that at 10mm (with the DA10-17) you will require two rows at 60 degree angles at least.

But if it's just to play around with the effect a bit and see whether it suits you, I would go for the Pentax.

Don't worry about AF, setting the focus ring at a distance of a few meters will keep everything in focus from nearby to infinite anyway. Best use a DOF Calculator (on-line) to find out the hyperfocal distance at your preferred aperture/focal length.

hth, Wim
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The 10-17 is a lot of fun. I'll agree - I tend to use it at either end of the zoom but not as much in the middle.
Both ends are good, and the flexibility is nice to have. I like the 17 side for indoor use, it gives a very good wide-angle ability.


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Another vote for the 10-17.
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+1 on DA 10-17

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QuoteOriginally posted by DSims Quote
The 10-17 is made by Tokina - I believe that's what you meant. I never tried the Samyang, but it sounds good. However, I can say having the zoom has been quite valuable to me.
Are you sure ? First I've heard of that.

Think Pentax had the 10-17 out first. I recall an article (Popular Photography). Pentax has been known for having a history of fisheye lenses over the years,

http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=who%20designed%20and%20makes%20the%20p...eMxXOA&cad=rja



Anyway...back to the OP's question.

I have a Pentax 10-17 and it's a wonderful lens. Very sharp and to me the advantage of it over a single focus fisheye...is that with the zoom you can vary the fisheye effect. ith a prime fisheye...you get the one fisheye view.

At 17mm I also find that I can play around with the angle I hold the camera and lens and get an almost wide angle effect at 17mm. Taking photos of vintage cars with this lens...can really stretch out the hood....great effect.
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QuoteOriginally posted by lesmore49 Quote
Originally posted by DSims Quote
The 10-17 is made by Tokina - I believe that's what you meant. I never tried the Samyang, but it sounds good. However, I can say having the zoom has been quite valuable to me.
Are you sure ? First I've heard of that.
Yes - Tokina makes a number of lenses for Pentax. Here are a couple of examples:

DA10-17 FE: Tokina

DA*16-50: Tokina

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Thank you people. Maybe it is worth it to save more and get the Pentax 10-17mm.


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Nice pix
QuoteOriginally posted by SKwan Quote
Nice night shots, I really wanted to see some fisheye night shots.
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