Pentaxian for one day

eagle_fly · 10-21-2012, 06:35 AM

Hi guys,

I enjoy the forum very much and have learned quite a bit here.
I have a Nikon D40 and thought it's high time to upgrade.
After careful consideration and some time lurking on forums,
I ordered the K5. I shot it for 1 day and can frankly see what the fuss is about.
I guess you all know that.
Unfortunately, the sensor is stained at several places.
I was surprised, as the camera was made in June 2012.
Anyhow, she's all packed now and ready to go back to amazon (for a refund).
It was good while it lasted.

I think pentax may have lost one client here.
Don't really have the time to do their quality control.
It's sad 'cause I really wanted to be a pentaxian.
Maybe I will some day, but not today...

Pablom · 10-21-2012, 06:41 AM

farewell then

TaoMaas · 10-21-2012, 07:05 AM - **1 Like**

Being a Pentaxian isn't about giving up that easily. Good luck with whatever camera you choose.

**Deimos** · 10-21-2012, 07:33 AM

dont feed the trolls

rawr · 10-21-2012, 07:35 AM

Originally posted by eagle_fly

the sensor is stained at several places.

Are you sure it wasn't just dust or dirt?

Sensor stains in a body of that period are so rare as to not be reported, as you can tell just by browsing the serial number database in PF.

eagle_fly · 10-21-2012, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by rawr

Are you sure it wasn't just dust or dirt?

Yes, I am sure! I've seen enough of them on the forum to be able to recognize them!
I read they are rare as well, that's why I took the plunge.
And here they are.
It's disappointing, as also I thought they had dealt with this by now...

eagle_fly · 10-21-2012, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by TaoMaas

Being a Pentaxian isn't about giving up that easily. Good luck with whatever camera you choose.

Maybe you're right!
I haven't given up on Pentax, but definitely on the K5.
I haven't heard about a camera with so many potential issues (FF, BF, low light focusing, stains when new, stains showing up later etc).
Though I'm sure it's great, if you get a good one.

Cheers

Mike.P® · 10-21-2012, 08:47 AM

**fs999** · 10-21-2012, 09:27 AM - **1 Like**

A Pentax camera buyer is not necessarily a Pentaxian...

rawr · 10-21-2012, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by eagle_fly

I haven't heard about a camera with so many potential issues

If you believe everything you read online, every camera is a time-bomb just waiting to go off. Meanwhile, Pentax DSLRs receive the highest customer satisfaction ratings, according to a 2012 global survey of camera owners by JD Power... so Nikon, Canon and other brands must have issues too.

**jva59** · 10-21-2012, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by rawr

If you believe everything you read online, every camera is a time-bomb just waiting to go off. Meanwhile, Pentax DSLRs receive the highest customer satisfaction ratings, according to a 2012 global survey of camera owners by JD Power... so Nikon, Canon and other brands must have issues too.

Thanks for this interesting link, Rawr.

normhead · 10-21-2012, 10:03 AM - **1 Like**

Quote:

Maybe you're right!
I haven't given up on Pentax, but definitely on the K5.
I haven't heard about a camera with so many potential issues (FF, BF, low light focusing, stains when new, stains showing up later etc).
Though I'm sure it's great, if you get a good one.

The whiners, the nitpickers, constant parade of every problem known to man being attributed to Pentax cameras that goes on on this forum, rears it's ugly head once again. Those who take complaints, some of which are legitimate, and go on and on about them year after year, thread after thread... hey, look, you've accomplish what you wanted. Cost Pentax a customer.

So what is the good of letting the blow hards go on and on with out of date and irrelevant information? Where is the good that comes from this? We don't even know if this guy has a sensor stain, we suspect he doesn't, but we're never going to find out because he has "sensor stain" so engraved in his head that he assumes that's his problem and doesn't even bother to find out if he does... how does that help? This guy was obviously on the fence about Pentax, having a problem just leads him to believe all the anti-Pentax hogwash published on this site is true.

So, nay sayers, is this the kind of result you had in mind? Are some of you so bitter all you want to do now is make Pentax pay? Kind of like a divorce? Great work.

eagle_fly · 10-21-2012, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by rawr

If you believe everything you read online, every camera is a time-bomb just waiting to go off. Meanwhile, Pentax DSLRs receive the highest customer satisfaction ratings, according to a 2012 global survey of camera owners by JD Power... so Nikon, Canon and other brands must have issues too.

Indeed Pentax, but not K5 specifically.
Do you think that a company that cannot solve a known problem for nearly two years can prosper in the long run?
How many people did have a bad experience and decided they had enough?
If I were one of the owners, I would be greatly concerned about where things are going...

eagle_fly · 10-21-2012, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by fs999

A Pentax camera buyer is not necessarily a Pentaxian...

Sure, if being a pentaxian means accepting suboptimal quality at a high price.
That I am not.

TaoMaas · 10-21-2012, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by eagle_fly

Do you think that a company that cannot solve a known problem for nearly two years can prosper in the long run?

How do you know they haven't solved it long ago and what you got was old stock? Aren't they using that same sensor in 4 of their current cameras? Heard any outcry about stains in the K-01 or K-30?

10-21-2012, 06:35 AM	#1
eagle_fly Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 25	Pentaxian for one day Hi guys, I enjoy the forum very much and have learned quite a bit here. I have a Nikon D40 and thought it's high time to upgrade. After careful consideration and some time lurking on forums, I ordered the K5. I shot it for 1 day and can frankly see what the fuss is about. I guess you all know that. Unfortunately, the sensor is stained at several places. I was surprised, as the camera was made in June 2012. Anyhow, she's all packed now and ready to go back to amazon (for a refund). It was good while it lasted. I think pentax may have lost one client here. Don't really have the time to do their quality control. It's sad 'cause I really wanted to be a pentaxian. Maybe I will some day, but not today...

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Pablom Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Usa Posts: 1,940	farewell then

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TaoMaas Pentaxian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Oklahoma City Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,574	Being a Pentaxian isn't about giving up that easily. Good luck with whatever camera you choose.

10-21-2012, 07:33 AM	#4
Deimos Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Kingdom of Wonder Posts: 1,777	dont feed the trolls

10-21-2012, 07:35 AM	#5
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by eagle_fly the sensor is stained at several places. Are you sure it wasn't just dust or dirt? Sensor stains in a body of that period are so rare as to not be reported, as you can tell just by browsing the serial number database in PF.

10-21-2012, 07:57 AM	#6
eagle_fly Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 25 Original Poster	Originally posted by rawr Are you sure it wasn't just dust or dirt? Yes, I am sure! I've seen enough of them on the forum to be able to recognize them! I read they are rare as well, that's why I took the plunge. And here they are. It's disappointing, as also I thought they had dealt with this by now...

10-21-2012, 08:02 AM	#7
eagle_fly Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 25 Original Poster	Originally posted by TaoMaas Being a Pentaxian isn't about giving up that easily. Good luck with whatever camera you choose. Maybe you're right! I haven't given up on Pentax, but definitely on the K5. I haven't heard about a camera with so many potential issues (FF, BF, low light focusing, stains when new, stains showing up later etc). Though I'm sure it's great, if you get a good one. Cheers

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Mike.P® Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Milton, Hampshire, UK Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,154

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fs999 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Luxembourg Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,633	A Pentax camera buyer is not necessarily a Pentaxian...

10-21-2012, 09:31 AM	#10
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by eagle_fly I haven't heard about a camera with so many potential issues If you believe everything you read online, every camera is a time-bomb just waiting to go off. Meanwhile, Pentax DSLRs receive the highest customer satisfaction ratings, according to a 2012 global survey of camera owners by JD Power... so Nikon, Canon and other brands must have issues too.

10-21-2012, 10:02 AM	#11
jva59 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,409	Originally posted by rawr If you believe everything you read online, every camera is a time-bomb just waiting to go off. Meanwhile, Pentax DSLRs receive the highest customer satisfaction ratings, according to a 2012 global survey of camera owners by JD Power... so Nikon, Canon and other brands must have issues too. Thanks for this interesting link, Rawr.

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10-21-2012, 10:03 AM - 1 Like	#12
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Quote: Maybe you're right! I haven't given up on Pentax, but definitely on the K5. I haven't heard about a camera with so many potential issues (FF, BF, low light focusing, stains when new, stains showing up later etc). Though I'm sure it's great, if you get a good one. The whiners, the nitpickers, constant parade of every problem known to man being attributed to Pentax cameras that goes on on this forum, rears it's ugly head once again. Those who take complaints, some of which are legitimate, and go on and on about them year after year, thread after thread... hey, look, you've accomplish what you wanted. Cost Pentax a customer. So what is the good of letting the blow hards go on and on with out of date and irrelevant information? Where is the good that comes from this? We don't even know if this guy has a sensor stain, we suspect he doesn't, but we're never going to find out because he has "sensor stain" so engraved in his head that he assumes that's his problem and doesn't even bother to find out if he does... how does that help? This guy was obviously on the fence about Pentax, having a problem just leads him to believe all the anti-Pentax hogwash published on this site is true. So, nay sayers, is this the kind of result you had in mind? Are some of you so bitter all you want to do now is make Pentax pay? Kind of like a divorce? Great work.

10-21-2012, 10:07 AM	#13
eagle_fly Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 25 Original Poster	Originally posted by rawr If you believe everything you read online, every camera is a time-bomb just waiting to go off. Meanwhile, Pentax DSLRs receive the highest customer satisfaction ratings, according to a 2012 global survey of camera owners by JD Power... so Nikon, Canon and other brands must have issues too. Indeed Pentax, but not K5 specifically. Do you think that a company that cannot solve a known problem for nearly two years can prosper in the long run? How many people did have a bad experience and decided they had enough? If I were one of the owners, I would be greatly concerned about where things are going...

10-21-2012, 10:12 AM	#14
eagle_fly Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 25 Original Poster	Originally posted by fs999 A Pentax camera buyer is not necessarily a Pentaxian... Sure, if being a pentaxian means accepting suboptimal quality at a high price. That I am not.

10-21-2012, 10:18 AM	#15
TaoMaas Pentaxian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Oklahoma City Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,574	Originally posted by eagle_fly Do you think that a company that cannot solve a known problem for nearly two years can prosper in the long run? How do you know they haven't solved it long ago and what you got was old stock? Aren't they using that same sensor in 4 of their current cameras? Heard any outcry about stains in the K-01 or K-30?