"Preliminary" K-5IIs Review.

TenZ.NL · 10-28-2012, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by HSV

In defense of the youtube poster, which also happens to be one of us PF members...the videos is about initial impressions, not about technical comparisons.

Most people would want to know objectively the difference between the K-5, II, and IIs...and APS-C vs FF or whatnot, but I think that was not the objective of the video.

+1
The most interesting part is that he allready would prefer the K5 IIs (which he just unboxed an hour ago) over his trusted 5D mkII

GDRoth · 10-28-2012, 11:46 AM

I appreciate Ed's thoughts...........he never claimed any more than it being his initial impressions....

tabl10s · 10-28-2012, 12:04 PM

Three times that he had the camera for less than an hour. Considering he's a pro, his information is the best I have to go on. He gave a non-technical review of the Limited's and he was right. If anyone here can beat him, please do so in a video.

Qwntm · 10-28-2012, 12:29 PM

A guy goes into an ice cream shop and orders a chocolate ice cream cone. He takes a bite and spits it on the floor! The server asks: "is there something wrong with the ice cream? The guy says: "yea, I HATE chocolate ice cream..."

Lol...

**Eric Auer** · 10-28-2012, 03:17 PM

"Unboxing" is probably the most stupid "word" on the internet.

If i get in a car and drive it, Does me getting out of the car later mean I "undrove" it?

Or do I have to drive the car back to where I started from in reverse?

snake · 10-28-2012, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by Corto-PA

"Unboxing" is probably the most stupid "word" on the internet.

If i get in a car and drive it, Does me getting out of the car later mean I "undrove" it?

Or do I have to drive the car back to where I started from in reverse?

You do realize that just because you put "un" on both those words, it doesn't make the same situation, right?

Maybe if the car came in a box, then it could be "unboxed".

Getting out of a car? Maybe you unshrouded yourself.

Buschmaster · 10-28-2012, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by Corto-PA

"Unboxing" is probably the most stupid "word" on the internet.

If i get in a car and drive it, Does me getting out of the car later mean I "undrove" it?

Or do I have to drive the car back to where I started from in reverse?

What a weird comparison. Cars don't come in boxes.

**Eric Auer** · 10-28-2012, 03:46 PM

Ok so If someone built a chair and I broke it did I "unbuild" it?

**Ex Finn.** · 10-28-2012, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by HSV

he videos is about initial impressions, not about technical comparisons.

Exactly.

**Ex Finn.** · 10-28-2012, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by Corto-PA

Ok so If someone built a chair and I broke it did I "unbuild" it?

No, only the one who build it can un-build it. You would be destroying it

.
Wrapping and un-wrapping is not same as building and un-building. FCOL!

falconeye · 10-28-2012, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

You're obviously not used to the American vernacular!

That's what I thought too. Not an hour he opened the box and already making a movie and blogging. And being entertaining in doing so. I love Americans when they do this

Don't know how he managed to mention Jesus in the end credits though

Of course, the content will be 90% of preexisting thoughts and as such, is just adding to the internet noise (which is huge). But OTOH, we would have nothing if Ed wouldn't have done it.

On a technical note ... The K-5IIs can't reach the 5DmkII resolution wise in a landscape situation such as Bryce Canyon with a carefully controlled setup and proper capture sharpening for either camera.

normhead · 10-28-2012, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Ok so If someone built a chair and I broke it did I "unbuild" it?

If I laugh so loud at this stupidity I toss my beer, did I un-drink it?

Quote:

On a technical note ... The K-5IIs can't reach the 5DmkII resolution wise in a landscape situation such as Bryce Canyon with a carefully controlled setup and proper capture sharpening for either camera.

Maybe if the K-5 is on a tripod and the 5DmkII isn't.

I was looking at a digital scanning back for a 4x5 today...incredible over 10000 x 8000 lines, 24 bit colour and 300 MB files, but my god the images were sweet. Someone took the exact same image my buddy took with his D4, and it made the D4 look cheap. All I need is $20K, and I'll never pay attention to one of these resolution statements again.

snake · 10-28-2012, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by Corto-PA

Ok so If someone built a chair and I broke it did I "unbuild" it?

No, but if you disassembled it, then you would have, as that word exists in German.

**jva59** · 10-28-2012, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by Corto-PA

Ok so If someone built a chair and I broke it did I "unbuild" it?

Eh!?

According to the etymological dictionary that I just consulted (ed. Walter Skeat), the prefix un- (signifying the reversal of an action) goes back to Anglo Saxon times and is cognate with Latin in- (as in 'insensensible' and Greek an-). Without trying, many examples come to mind: 'untie', 'unwind' 'unpack' 'unwrap', 'undo'. There is no reason why English couldn't have formed 'unbuild'*, but no language, least of all English, is completely 'logical' or uniform in the way it forms words. Witness the existence of both regular and irregular verbs

I also agree that the piece was clearly labelled as a set of preliminary reactions and not a review.

**RobA_Oz** · 10-28-2012, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by normhead

I was looking at a digital scanning back for a 4x5 today...incredible over 10000 x 8000 lines, 24 bit colour and 300 MB files, but my god the images were sweet. Someone took the exact same image my buddy took with his D4, and it made the D4 look cheap. All I need is $20K, and I'll never pay attention to one of these resolution statements again.

Hmm. That's about the market value of all my camera gear, so I discovered when I did an insurance check recently.

Was that with or without a lens? Go you halves - time share basis. It could be a very steep and slippery slope, though.

10-28-2012, 12:04 PM	#18
tabl10s Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sacramento(formerly from B'Ham, England). Posts: 1,424 Original Poster	Three times that he had the camera for less than an hour. Considering he's a pro, his information is the best I have to go on. He gave a non-technical review of the Limited's and he was right. If anyone here can beat him, please do so in a video. Last edited by tabl10s; 10-28-2012 at 10:30 PM.

10-28-2012, 04:14 PM	#25
Ex Finn. Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Maryland. Espoo. Kouvola. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,975	Originally posted by Corto-PA Ok so If someone built a chair and I broke it did I "unbuild" it? No, only the one who build it can un-build it. You would be destroying it. Wrapping and un-wrapping is not same as building and un-building. FCOL!

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10-28-2012, 10:26 AM	#16
TenZ.NL Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Below sealevel Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,100	Originally posted by HSV In defense of the youtube poster, which also happens to be one of us PF members...the videos is about initial impressions, not about technical comparisons. Most people would want to know objectively the difference between the K-5, II, and IIs...and APS-C vs FF or whatnot, but I think that was not the objective of the video. +1 The most interesting part is that he allready would prefer the K5 IIs (which he just unboxed an hour ago) over his trusted 5D mkII

10-28-2012, 11:46 AM	#17
GDRoth Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: S.E. Michigan, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 830	I appreciate Ed's thoughts...........he never claimed any more than it being his initial impressions....

10-28-2012, 12:29 PM	#19
Qwntm Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Eastern Oregon Posts: 856	A guy goes into an ice cream shop and orders a chocolate ice cream cone. He takes a bite and spits it on the floor! The server asks: "is there something wrong with the ice cream? The guy says: "yea, I HATE chocolate ice cream..." Lol...

10-28-2012, 03:17 PM	#20
Eric Auer Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,211	"Unboxing" is probably the most stupid "word" on the internet. If i get in a car and drive it, Does me getting out of the car later mean I "undrove" it? Or do I have to drive the car back to where I started from in reverse?

10-28-2012, 03:20 PM	#21
snake Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: NY/Germany Posts: 1,183	Originally posted by Corto-PA "Unboxing" is probably the most stupid "word" on the internet. If i get in a car and drive it, Does me getting out of the car later mean I "undrove" it? Or do I have to drive the car back to where I started from in reverse? You do realize that just because you put "un" on both those words, it doesn't make the same situation, right? Maybe if the car came in a box, then it could be "unboxed". Getting out of a car? Maybe you unshrouded yourself.

10-28-2012, 03:39 PM	#22
Buschmaster Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 806	Originally posted by Corto-PA "Unboxing" is probably the most stupid "word" on the internet. If i get in a car and drive it, Does me getting out of the car later mean I "undrove" it? Or do I have to drive the car back to where I started from in reverse? What a weird comparison. Cars don't come in boxes.

10-28-2012, 03:46 PM	#23
Eric Auer Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,211	Ok so If someone built a chair and I broke it did I "unbuild" it?

10-28-2012, 04:04 PM	#24
Ex Finn. Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Maryland. Espoo. Kouvola. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,975	Originally posted by HSV he videos is about initial impressions, not about technical comparisons. Exactly.

10-28-2012, 04:28 PM	#26
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by RobA_Oz You're obviously not used to the American vernacular! That's what I thought too. Not an hour he opened the box and already making a movie and blogging. And being entertaining in doing so. I love Americans when they do this Don't know how he managed to mention Jesus in the end credits though Of course, the content will be 90% of preexisting thoughts and as such, is just adding to the internet noise (which is huge). But OTOH, we would have nothing if Ed wouldn't have done it. On a technical note ... The K-5IIs can't reach the 5DmkII resolution wise in a landscape situation such as Bryce Canyon with a carefully controlled setup and proper capture sharpening for either camera.

10-28-2012, 04:41 PM	#27
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,450	Quote: Ok so If someone built a chair and I broke it did I "unbuild" it? If I laugh so loud at this stupidity I toss my beer, did I un-drink it? Quote: On a technical note ... The K-5IIs can't reach the 5DmkII resolution wise in a landscape situation such as Bryce Canyon with a carefully controlled setup and proper capture sharpening for either camera. Maybe if the K-5 is on a tripod and the 5DmkII isn't. I was looking at a digital scanning back for a 4x5 today...incredible over 10000 x 8000 lines, 24 bit colour and 300 MB files, but my god the images were sweet. Someone took the exact same image my buddy took with his D4, and it made the D4 look cheap. All I need is $20K, and I'll never pay attention to one of these resolution statements again.

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10-28-2012, 04:50 PM	#28
snake Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: NY/Germany Posts: 1,183	Originally posted by Corto-PA Ok so If someone built a chair and I broke it did I "unbuild" it? No, but if you disassembled it, then you would have, as that word exists in German.

10-28-2012, 04:55 PM	#29
jva59 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,409	Originally posted by Corto-PA Ok so If someone built a chair and I broke it did I "unbuild" it? Eh!? According to the etymological dictionary that I just consulted (ed. Walter Skeat), the prefix un- (signifying the reversal of an action) goes back to Anglo Saxon times and is cognate with Latin in- (as in 'insensensible' and Greek an-). Without trying, many examples come to mind: 'untie', 'unwind' 'unpack' 'unwrap', 'undo'. There is no reason why English couldn't have formed 'unbuild'*, but no language, least of all English, is completely 'logical' or uniform in the way it forms words. Witness the existence of both regular and irregular verbs I also agree that the piece was clearly labelled as a set of preliminary reactions and not a review.

10-28-2012, 05:01 PM	#30
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,191	Originally posted by normhead I was looking at a digital scanning back for a 4x5 today...incredible over 10000 x 8000 lines, 24 bit colour and 300 MB files, but my god the images were sweet. Someone took the exact same image my buddy took with his D4, and it made the D4 look cheap. All I need is $20K, and I'll never pay attention to one of these resolution statements again. Hmm. That's about the market value of all my camera gear, so I discovered when I did an insurance check recently. Was that with or without a lens? Go you halves - time share basis. It could be a very steep and slippery slope, though.