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12-03-2012, 03:28 PM   #31
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In Europe, no issue.

In the US, I've not had much of an issue, either.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Into The Lens Quote
why did you go to 12800 ISO for this particular shot? You could've shot it with a faster SS and wider aperture and you could've taken the ISO down a little (to 3200?). What are the reason to go there as you mention?
Well, I was using my Sigma 70-200 2.8 II, TAv and auto-ISO up to 12800. I simply couldn't go any lower than f2.8 with that lens and I needed a touch more DOF, so I went with f3.2. Since some other shots were at 200mm (or likely to be) I kept the shutter speed at 1/250 to reduce camera shake and help capture the rather dynamic movement of the lead singer, especially as I was shooting him side-on.

In retrospect I could indeed have gone with a tad slower shutter speed and hence lower ISO, but that Sigma is a big, heavy beast, and shooting it handheld is tricky. With a monopod, and the action a bit further away, I've used 1/60 with that lens even at 200mm with good results, but that wasn't an option at the concert.
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Memo - your RX100 shots are great! If you can keep doing that you do not need for a DLSR really.

I go called to do a shoot and I only had my point and shoot at the time
Thank you.

What point and shoot camera did you use for that picture? It looks good!
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Well, I was using my Sigma 70-200 2.8 II, TAv and auto-ISO up to 12800. I simply couldn't go any lower than f2.8 with that lens and I needed a touch more DOF, so I went with f3.2. Since some other shots were at 200mm (or likely to be) I kept the shutter speed at 1/250 to reduce camera shake and help capture the rather dynamic movement of the lead singer, especially as I was shooting him side-on.

In retrospect I could indeed have gone with a tad slower shutter speed and hence lower ISO, but that Sigma is a big, heavy beast, and shooting it handheld is tricky. With a monopod, and the action a bit further away, I've used 1/60 with that lens even at 200mm with good results, but that wasn't an option at the concert.
That makes perfect sense. Personally, I try not to go under 1/60 sec, and even then, it'll be on slower songs where the musicians don't move as much. Also, I leave the SR activated throughout the concert since I rarely have the chance to go above 1/125 sec, wider than f3.2 and under 800 ISO since the lighting is so poor. It's always give and take. That's why concert photography is such a challenge. And that red light (on skin), makes for great black & white pictures. Blue and green, I find not so much.

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Thank you so much and yes, I am very lucky.

These are for you then. Just shot Dick Dale again on Friday night. The site that I shoot for makes them a little soft but you get the idea.

UPDATE
Better link Dick Dale 2012 - a set on Flickr
Wow!! Great pictures. That's really something. Thanks so much for sharing these pictures with us. The Great Surf King, Mr. Dale.

I notice that on most of your photos, the skin tone is very natural. Is that how the light was at the concert or did you adjust the WB in post-editing? Do you shoot with Auto WB and then adjust WB afterwards? It seems like all the concerts I attend always have very strong colored light (mostly red, yellow and blue). That's why I end up with many B&W photos. Also, were those shot with a 50-135mm?
Hey, sorry for all the questions. I'm just so amazed right now, I want to know it all!
Ben

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I suddenly have the urge to sneak into every/any concert I can.
A very eye-opening and inspiring thread - thanks guys.
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Here's a few more from lenses older than myself...




Super Takumar 50mm 1.4 @ 2.8
ISO 8000




ISO 6400
1/100
Auto-Takumar 55 1.8 @ 5.6?




ISO 6400
1/100
Auto-Takumar 55 1.8 @ 5.6?

I always shoot RAW with AWB because the camera is accurate most of the time...but can be changed if needed.
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Super Takumar 50mm 1.4 @ 2.8
ISO 8000

Niiiiice!!

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Well only twice a year or so:

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Who is that? Looks almost like The Gathering.
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This really is a fun topic
BlackRockBacon and Ron excellent photos! Really creative stuff by everyone.

Into The Lens - Thanks again, I love concert photography

Is that how the light was at the concert or did you adjust the WB in post-editing? The light was very red for most of the show but I found that using the "Muted" option under shooting styles really helps. Also, I find that Pentax does a great job with AWB so I leave it there and edit a little in LR4 too.

Were those shot with a 50-135mm? Not this time, I used my Sigma 24-60mm F2.8 which is really good. I just received my DA* 16-50mm so I'm excited to try that lens to see how it will work. Preliminary testing says that it should be better for low light AF.

I shot in manual using Zone Metering with -2 EV on Dick's clothing since he was wearing black. Really worked well.

A good video on how
works.

My settings were:
Spot Meter and Spot Focus
ISO1600 - ISO2000
Maintain F4 for DoF
Varying the shutter between 1/200 and 1/160 (depending on how the light fell)

The Grizzled Mighty opened and you can see much more red here



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My concert shots are more sedate




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QuoteOriginally posted by Into The Lens Quote
That makes perfect sense. Personally, I try not to go under 1/60 sec, and even then, it'll be on slower songs where the musicians don't move as much. Also, I leave the SR activated throughout the concert since I rarely have the chance to go above 1/125 sec, wider than f3.2 and under 800 ISO since the lighting is so poor. It's always give and take. That's why concert photography is such a challenge. And that red light (on skin), makes for great black & white pictures. Blue and green, I find not so much.

Take care,
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Same here, i'm mostly around the 1/80 mark and with the SR on that's quite okay unless they move a lot then i tend to use higher speeds.
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QuoteOriginally posted by john5100 Quote
My settings were:
Spot Meter and Spot Focus
ISO1600 - ISO2000
Maintain F4 for DoF
Varying the shutter between 1/200 and 1/160 (depending on how the light fell)

The Grizzled Mighty opened and you can see much more red here

Little bit off technical advice but i wouldnt go above ISO1600 when you're using RAW because the K5 then applies noise reduction to the photo.
So ISO1600 is my max, i simply bright up the photo in post if needed.
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Little bit off technical advice but i wouldnt go above ISO1600 when you're using RAW because the K5 then applies noise reduction to the photo.
So ISO1600 is my max, i simply bright up the photo in post if needed.
You are right to a point. Some shows don't allow for ISO at or below 1600 to stop or slow down the action.

This was shot at ISO5000


ISO3200

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