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View Poll Results: Would you pay $100 (US) to increase the sharpness of your photos by 8%?
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02-28-2013, 07:20 PM   #31
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Yes. I would. I chose to spend the hundred more on the Sigma 50 1.4 vs the FA 50 1.4 after all.

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If the catch is moire, then no. I would pay for less shaky hands though.
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Well, I guess i would pay that extra money for the K5IIs. I have just purchased my second one.
This new camera is ( in my opinion ) substantially better in several areas over the K5.
Perceived sharpness is only one of them. Seeming better SR, better on off switch, better shutter,
My old K5's were in the 380000000 series and I have had to replaced three sensors among two cameras.
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Ppl pay $100 (or near that) for NR and sharpening software, so why not?
I would.

and that is just $100 on top of what I'd pay for a new camera anyway.
So just go all the way rather than stinge on $100, later feel that somehow something is missing and then having to sell off the existing camera to get the 'sharper' one.
Or stinge on the $100 cheaper camera and later suffering from some mental imbalance (yes, and this eats slowly into a person) that somehow I missed out.


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Yes, I would - $100 will buy me a lot of beer, a 6-pack here and a 6-pack there will give me all of the sharpness perception I would ever need...
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Is this another way of asking "will you pay $100 more for a K5IIs instead of a K5II"?
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Yes yes and yes. It is more than 8 % when you crop away bokeh and area not in focus.
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Well, once you put $1100 on the table, adding $100, which is 9% more, to get 8% more details sounds fair IMO.

On the other hand if it was $330 more I think I would keep them for a new lens.


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03-01-2013, 09:25 AM   #39
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QuoteOriginally posted by gatorpops Quote
Well, I guess i would pay that extra money for the K5IIs. I have just purchased my second one.
This new camera is ( in my opinion ) substantially better in several areas over the K5.
Perceived sharpness is only one of them. Seeming better SR, better on off switch, better shutter,
My old K5's were in the 380000000 series and I have had to replaced three sensors among two cameras.
Yes, it's my impression as well, that somehow better in body SR combined with the removal of the AA filter, and perhaps even reduced effects of mirror slap, work together to deliver high detail in a way that images look as if they were shot from a good tripod with the mirror raised.
Here is one in harsh daylight, with a 100% crop. Both with zero capture/output sharpening from raw, so this is what you start with detail wise. I'm almost positive that the effect of shake/mirror slap have been reduced to a minimum in the K5II(s). I know the 100% crop is not fully sharp, but remember this is raw without ány sharpening, shot at f5 (though with a very sharp and high resolving Zeiss 35/2). You can even see the details in the white arrow of the traffic sign. These are nót artifacts! The K5IIs' ability to show detail (which is pretty useless in an image like this I agree), goes a fair bit beyond just "sharper pixels", and really gets to be a bonus in larger (landscape) shots that are full of fine detail. Another big plus is in close focus shots, with pronounced bokeh.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Adam Quote
I would pay $80 for Topaz denoise, which does a much better job of removing noise than the in-camera algorithms or even photoshop. And that'll certainly make my night shots noticeably sharper
Excuse me, What has denoising to do with sharpening ?
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Excuse me, What has denoising to do with sharpening ?
Imagine 2 colors without any noise. The border between them is quite visible and strong ... no? Some might say, sharp.
Now introduce noise on both colors (same levels of noise) and you will notice that the border between them will slightly start to "decay".

Noise reduction will help improve the clarity and sharpness of the photo.
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Excuse me, What has denoising to do with sharpening ?
I don't want to sidetrack this thread, but reducing noise while preserving sharpness go hand-in-hand. Feel free to start a new thread on the subject. With the right software, you can eliminate noise and sharpen the photo to yield a sharper net result.

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But when there is no noise ? I thought the question was about to increase sharpness on photos...
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But when there is no noise ? I thought the question was about to increase sharpness on photos...
He's saying, he already spent money on a denoising program to make his noisy images look clean, but also sharper. Since he would spend $80 bucks on such a denoising program, he would likely spend the $100 to get sharpness improvements on all his images.
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I had another poll before which wasn't really the same, but you can see more guys wanna go for the K5IIs if they are priced the same:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-5/206524-k-5ii-k-5iis-one-will-y...rice-same.html

I've hade my K5IIs for a few months now, really enjoy using it.
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