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04-23-2013, 06:37 AM   #16
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I'd much rather stay at 10MP. I bet a 10MP sensor made with today's technology would be truly wonderful.

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Nope, will not buy it for sure, both my 18-55 and 50-200 lenses that i use for travel resolve very badly on 16mp sensor.

I would happily go back to 10mp on APSC sensor.
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I think as long as dynamic range does not go down, increased number of pixels does tend to decrease noise, at least slightly and increase cropping ability (once again slightly). With hard drive sizes and memory costs increasing and decreasing respectively, I don't see it as a big deal to have high megapixel cameras, as long as there is at least a little increase in image quality. That said, I don't see a significant bump in image quality for the D7100 over the K5 II/IIs, with regard to the sensor and I would far rather see Pentax spend more time improving their auto focus module.

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QuoteOriginally posted by kiwi_jono Quote
Actually you hit the nail on the head. I will eventually have 24MP+ camera, not because I need it, but because I can.
IMO it will be less about your ability to buy a 24Mp camera, than your inability to buy a 16Mp one sometime in the future.
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The thing is, if that's what they're offering next time you upgrade, you buy it right? I can't remember who it was but someone was calculating diffraction limits based on pixel size. APS-c is already at a limit of about 8 @ 16 MP. I think @ 24 MP it drops to just over 6. This is at the same time I can see false colour in D600 images, even with a bayer filter. At the moment I would really like to see better results from 24 MP test images before I'm ready to make the plunge. I think Pentax is on my side here. I don't believe they'll release a 24 MP sensor camera until they've got the bugs worked out. But the diffraction thing is still an issue.

It will be a while before someone sells me a 24 MP camera based on what I've seen so far. I ran a friends 24 MP NIkon images through Aperture, and when I blew my 16 MP images up to 24 I couldn't see a difference. This in stark contrast to D800 images where pixel peeping there's a clear difference.

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The ever increasing number of megapixels on sensors is one of the main reasons I don't upgrade. Eventually I'll have to, of course, and I'll have to take whatever's available. In the meantime I am processing and saving much more manageable files.
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I dont need more megapixels but with all other vendors moving on to 24MP, its a sign of healthy product development. That's the reason, I would like to see Pentax moving to 24MP sensor

On the other note, I wonder how limiteds will perform when sensor density goes high. I have seen good lenses from other brad reaching their resolution thresholds as sensor MP goes up

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Well I'm not waiting for this 24mp sensor. I do make prints and sometimes a bit large, but with images made good from a 16mp sensor there is no problem. The sensor is not made for cropping, it is made for making great images, so don't spoil the best off your image on being a lazy photographer.

Where I work at soccer there is one photographer with a Canon 5D Mark III who uses a 70-200mm/f2.8 lens mostly zoomed out. To an average of like 120mm he Always covers half off the stadium. The only thing he produces are images good enough for websides since they average out on like 4-6 megapixel. Only occasional he has something to fill his image nearby, but then he goes straight to 70mm.
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24 mega pixels?

PHTT!!!

I'll take as many as I can get, hell, give me 48!
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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
Where I work at soccer there is one photographer with a Canon 5D Mark III who uses a 70-200mm/f2.8 lens mostly zoomed out. To an average of like 120mm he Always covers half off the stadium. The only thing he produces are images good enough for websides since they average out on like 4-6 megapixel. Only occasional he has something to fill his image nearby, but then he goes straight to 70mm.
Proof that it is all about how well you use your tools.
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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
The sensor is not made for cropping, it is made for making great images, so don't spoil the best off your image on being a lazy photographer.
While I can see your point and wholeheartedly agree - cropping down a 24MP to a 4-6MP is dumb and will produce poor IQ - with some scenes (eg birds on telephoto, architecture shots) you can't always easily fill the frame with the gear you have, so a heavy crop (or other substantial adjustments to geometry or alignment) sometimes makes sense. Maybe not drastic 24MP to 4MP crops or adjustments, of course.
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Already mentioned. It gives more headroom for cropping to other aspect ratios you may print. I like doing square compositions often and have some frames for a 16x16 inch image made that I rotate my pictures through. The extra MP helps some. And cameras don't have a grid for the rule of diagonals so I play it safe and leave a buffer around the image so I can crop to that rule. But whether that is any value to you is an individual thing.
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QuoteOriginally posted by tabl10s Quote
Do You Need 24 MP's... if you never intend to print?
I don't need 24 MP's even for printing. Even for cropping and then printing. 6 MP is enough. However, I did upgrade from K100d S to K-5 for some other advantages of the K-5 aside from the MP. No one seems to make a 6 MP cam with up-to-date features, but I guess I could down sample. Prints - even an 8X10 seems large, still, and 6 MP can do that. Future upgraded cam will probably have 24MP or more, but that will be for the features, and not MP.
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I am shooting 24mp and my gallery prints are just incredible now, so freak'n detailed with the higher dpi I am printing as opposed to the equivalent sized prints shot with the K5, really really enjoying it...
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