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07-20-2013, 04:50 PM   #1
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K-5 ii benefits over K-30

I've owned a K100D super, K-x, K-01, and recently acquired a K-30 (love it thus far). I picked up the K-5 ii deal on overstock the other day mainly for the 18-135mm WR with plans to sell the body. And now I'm curious..

What benefits do you get with the K-5 ii over the K-30?

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Mirror lockup and overall quieter shutter/mirror. 14 bit raw. Probably lots more that other posters will add, but those were two of the big features I had to convince myself I didn't need before I got my K-30.
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not exactly the most concise response, however most of the differences are pretty apparent:

Side by Side Comparison: Digital Photography Review

probably the only one which might on be on there is the improved reflectivity on the back LCD making it easier to see in bright overhead light.

overall, not a whole lot of difference.
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Oh yes, and the top LCD. People who are used to that seem to miss it a lot on the K-30. Me, I don't know any better

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larger buffer so you can take longer bursts, more buttons on the body so less going into menus, full magnesium body, and 5 rather than 3 shot brackets
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Most of the differences are in the controls and features, the sensors are the same although 14bit on k-5II and a different image processor.

1/8000 second shutter
Flash X sync mode
No scene modes on k-5II
Locking mode dial
5 frame exposure bracketing
Mirror lock up
slightly higher FPS 7 vs 6 if you care
bigger battery
no AA batteries
heavier
top LCD
dedicated ISO button
dedicated AF mode switch
separate AE-L and AF buttons
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K-30 no grip; K-5 can take a grip.
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  • ISO - 80 to 51200 Extended vs. 100 to 25600 Extended - this coupled with the 14 bit A/D should provide slightly better dynamic range.
  • Video - the K30 has better video than the K5/II/IIs



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I had all k5, k30 and k5ii-s cameras at the same time and I can add some differences here.

First and most important for me is the heavy noise reduction that k30 does to jpeg files. If you don't have time for PP and you shoot mostly jpeg you will notice the k30's iso files above 800 lack A LOT of detail compared to those from k5. And I'm talking about a NR the camera does regardless of your settings. Even if you turn off the in-camera NR, the jpeg's will still be heavily processed. This alone was a deal breaker for me.

Somebody said the movie is better....I don't necessarily find that true. The k30 movie files are plagued by the jelly effect which doesn't happen with k5. Also, a lot of people complain about the raw (mjpeg) format of k5's movies. I find that ideal because there's no loss in quality and I can compress my movies to any format and bitrate I like with ease. The k30 can shoot 30fps in fullHD but again, that jelly effect is really annoying once you know how smooth k5 deals with movies.

Another big difference for me was the shutter noise...If you don't want people to turn their heads when you take a picture behind them, choose the k5.

And finally, the last reason that made me drop the k30, is the much better dynamic range you'll find in k5ii.

If you ask me the k5ii-s ( yes, I like the extra sharpness, and no, I still didn't see any moire in my pictures) is a no brainer when compared to k30. I hope this helps.
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yes, the k30 has a better video compression which means longer recording times, but if you notice, k5 and k5ii have 4 star jpegs while k30 only has 3, if you work in raw only its not an issue. Wonder if the lower quality of jpeg is a limitation of the prime-m and that is why its not in the k5ii.
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IIIRC, the K-5 & variants also boast a more advanced, ultrasonic sensor cleaning system.

Also, it can take an external microphone.
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14bit vs 12bit raw files means the K-5 has much better dynamic range.
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QuoteOriginally posted by y0chang Quote
yes, the k30 has a better video compression which means longer recording times, but if you notice, k5 and k5ii have 4 star jpegs while k30 only has 3, if you work in raw only its not an issue. Wonder if the lower quality of jpeg is a limitation of the prime-m and that is why its not in the k5ii.
Maybe the k30 3 star is just as good as K5 4 star
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QuoteOriginally posted by WerTicus Quote
14bit vs 12bit raw files means the K-5 has much better dynamic range.
No it doesn't it means you've more steps in between so to say.
Since sensors are linear it means that the shadows have far fewer steps as the highlight so you mostly gain some quality in the sahdows that might make it appear the DR is wider.
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QuoteOriginally posted by y0chang Quote
Wonder if the lower quality of jpeg is a limitation of the prime-m and that is why its not in the k5ii.
The PRIME M was set for 12-bit RAW and not the 14-bit wanted for the toptear camera that K-5 II is. So no PRIME M in this series.


I think one off the main advantages is the iso 80 setting with the 14-bit RAW that can make wonderfull image quality that does beat the option in the K-30/K-01 with the limit off iso 100 and 12-bit RAW. For that you need offcourse a setting that requires the full dynamic rage that is offered with the K-5 II.
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