New K-5 IIs owner: couple of doubts

RonakG · 09-08-2014, 09:01 PM

Just got myself a K-5 IIs. I have couple of doubts regarding the camera.

1. When I switch the camera on, some kind of scratching sound comes from the camera. First I thought it is dust removal, but then I turned startup dust removal off and the sound is still there every time I turn on the camera.

2. Viewfinder is very warm compared to my K-x. When I compare both side by side, K-x viewfinder shows colors that are much closer to actual whereas K-5 IIs viewfinder is warm.

Any ideas?

MarkJerling · 09-08-2014, 10:46 PM

The only sound it should make on startup is the dust removal sound. And, I won't describe that as scratching. As the viewfinder is optical, you should see the colours as real as can be. (Unless someone's replaced the focus screen perhaps?) Have you checked shutter count to make sure it's new if it's supposed to be new?

jimr-pdx · 09-08-2014, 10:47 PM

Curious about those sounds, so it's not the SR system in your estimation? As to color temperature, it can be adjusted in great detail via the menu system - though I haven't seen one need anything right out of the box. I'd contact the sellers and let them know. Hope it's all easy stuff!

Edit - oops, didn't think you meant viewfinder!! I was thinking LCD

RonakG · 09-08-2014, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by MarkJerling

New or secondhand? The only sound it should make on startup is the dust removal sound. And, I won't describe that as scratching. As the viewfinder is optical, you should see the colours as real as can be. (Unless someone's replaced the focus screen perhaps?)

It's a new one. Got it today from Adorama. I've turned off dust removal on startup, so that can't be it.

I'll do some more comparison for viewfinder tomorrow morning in daylight. There's a perceivable difference in color temperature between viewfinders of K-x and K-5 IIs.

---------- Post added Sep 8th, 2014 at 11:03 PM ----------

Originally posted by jimr-pdx

Curious about those sounds, so it's not the SR system in your estimation? As to color temperature, it can be adjusted in great detail via the menu system - though I haven't seen one need anything right out of the box. I'd contact the sellers and let them know. Hope it's all easy stuff!

Edit - oops, didn't think you meant viewfinder!! I was thinking LCD

I've no idea what the sound is about. On another forum few people also mentioned that the sound is from SR mechanism, and is perfectly normal. They were very casual about the warm color temp about view finder too.

Giklab · 09-08-2014, 11:52 PM

That "scratching" is supposedly from the aperture activator. Mine was quietly audible at first, then the camera had a problem and got serviced. After that, the sound got really loud (and also could be felt through the camera).
I'd describe it as more of a fart though.

**Ex Finn.** · 09-09-2014, 03:09 AM

Yup, aperture motor cycling at power-up.
As far as the viewfinder, are you using the same lens for comparison?

Oldbayrunner · 09-09-2014, 03:25 AM

The difference you are seeing in the viewfinder is you are going from viewing through a Pentamirror on your K-x to a much better Pentaprism. I agree the quick start up noise is the aperture activator, mine does that.

RobG · 09-09-2014, 06:18 AM

Here's what my K5iis sounds like when I switch it on - twice.

Youtu.be

As far as I know, this noise is completely normal.

sungibr · 09-09-2014, 07:31 AM

Originally posted by Oldbayrunner

The difference you are seeing in the viewfinder is you are going from viewing through a Pentamirror on your K-x to a much better Pentaprism. I agree the quick start up noise is the aperture activator, mine does that.

That difference in color does have nothing to do with the fact the KX is pentamirror and K5IIs is pentaprism.

The K10D is pentaprism too, and have a more "cooler" and natural rendering of view. The whites look white.

My guess is that it have something to do with the optical engineering of the 100% coverage pentaprism of the K7-K5 bodies, and the fact the camera as a whole is a very compact pro body.

RonakG · 09-09-2014, 07:44 AM

Thanks everyone. So looks like nothing to worry about, just couple of things to get used to.

**fs999** · 09-09-2014, 08:26 AM

Originally posted by sungibr

The K10D is pentaprism too, and have a more "cooler" and natural rendering of view. The whites look white.

Never saw a difference in rendering between my K10D or K20D and K7 or K5...

**hjoseph7** · 09-15-2014, 09:40 AM

I have the K-5 IIs and the dust removal is so quiet I don't even know it's ON. I would send the camera back.

Giklab · 09-15-2014, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by hjoseph7

I have the K-5 IIs and the dust removal is so quiet I don't even know it's ON. I would send the camera back.

He's not hearing the dust removal though...

kpl · 09-16-2014, 12:09 AM

That sound ist absolutely ok.
Mine does that, too.
It did that sound when I unboxed it and it still does that after several thousands of shutter actuations

Nothing to worry about.

Cheers,
kpl

**crewl1** · 09-16-2014, 12:51 AM

Startup sound is normal with K-5 series.
Here is my video like the one above

Youtu.be

09-08-2014, 09:01 PM	#1
RonakG Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Bay Area, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 603	New K-5 IIs owner: couple of doubts Just got myself a K-5 IIs. I have couple of doubts regarding the camera. 1. When I switch the camera on, some kind of scratching sound comes from the camera. First I thought it is dust removal, but then I turned startup dust removal off and the sound is still there every time I turn on the camera. 2. Viewfinder is very warm compared to my K-x. When I compare both side by side, K-x viewfinder shows colors that are much closer to actual whereas K-5 IIs viewfinder is warm. Any ideas?

09-08-2014, 10:46 PM	#2
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,405	The only sound it should make on startup is the dust removal sound. And, I won't describe that as scratching. As the viewfinder is optical, you should see the colours as real as can be. (Unless someone's replaced the focus screen perhaps?) Have you checked shutter count to make sure it's new if it's supposed to be new? Last edited by MarkJerling; 09-08-2014 at 10:53 PM.

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09-08-2014, 10:47 PM	#3
jimr-pdx Pentaxian Join Date: May 2010 Location: now 1 hour north of PDX Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,897	Curious about those sounds, so it's not the SR system in your estimation? As to color temperature, it can be adjusted in great detail via the menu system - though I haven't seen one need anything right out of the box. I'd contact the sellers and let them know. Hope it's all easy stuff! Edit - oops, didn't think you meant viewfinder!! I was thinking LCD

09-08-2014, 10:52 PM	#4
RonakG Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Bay Area, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 603 Original Poster	Originally posted by MarkJerling New or secondhand? The only sound it should make on startup is the dust removal sound. And, I won't describe that as scratching. As the viewfinder is optical, you should see the colours as real as can be. (Unless someone's replaced the focus screen perhaps?) It's a new one. Got it today from Adorama. I've turned off dust removal on startup, so that can't be it. I'll do some more comparison for viewfinder tomorrow morning in daylight. There's a perceivable difference in color temperature between viewfinders of K-x and K-5 IIs. ---------- Post added Sep 8th, 2014 at 11:03 PM ---------- Originally posted by jimr-pdx Curious about those sounds, so it's not the SR system in your estimation? As to color temperature, it can be adjusted in great detail via the menu system - though I haven't seen one need anything right out of the box. I'd contact the sellers and let them know. Hope it's all easy stuff! Edit - oops, didn't think you meant viewfinder!! I was thinking LCD I've no idea what the sound is about. On another forum few people also mentioned that the sound is from SR mechanism, and is perfectly normal. They were very casual about the warm color temp about view finder too.

09-08-2014, 11:52 PM	#5
Giklab Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Slovenia Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,182	That "scratching" is supposedly from the aperture activator. Mine was quietly audible at first, then the camera had a problem and got serviced. After that, the sound got really loud (and also could be felt through the camera). I'd describe it as more of a fart though.

09-09-2014, 03:09 AM	#6
Ex Finn. Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Maryland. Espoo. Kouvola. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,975	Yup, aperture motor cycling at power-up. As far as the viewfinder, are you using the same lens for comparison?

09-09-2014, 03:25 AM	#7
Oldbayrunner Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,665	The difference you are seeing in the viewfinder is you are going from viewing through a Pentamirror on your K-x to a much better Pentaprism. I agree the quick start up noise is the aperture activator, mine does that.

09-09-2014, 07:31 AM	#9
sungibr Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sao Paulo Photos: Albums Posts: 149	Originally posted by Oldbayrunner The difference you are seeing in the viewfinder is you are going from viewing through a Pentamirror on your K-x to a much better Pentaprism. I agree the quick start up noise is the aperture activator, mine does that. That difference in color does have nothing to do with the fact the KX is pentamirror and K5IIs is pentaprism. The K10D is pentaprism too, and have a more "cooler" and natural rendering of view. The whites look white. My guess is that it have something to do with the optical engineering of the 100% coverage pentaprism of the K7-K5 bodies, and the fact the camera as a whole is a very compact pro body.

09-09-2014, 07:44 AM	#10
RonakG Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Bay Area, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 603 Original Poster	Thanks everyone. So looks like nothing to worry about, just couple of things to get used to.

09-09-2014, 08:26 AM	#11
fs999 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Luxembourg Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,636	Originally posted by sungibr The K10D is pentaprism too, and have a more "cooler" and natural rendering of view. The whites look white. Never saw a difference in rendering between my K10D or K20D and K7 or K5...

09-15-2014, 09:40 AM	#12
hjoseph7 Site Supporter Join Date: May 2014 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,046	I have the K-5 IIs and the dust removal is so quiet I don't even know it's ON. I would send the camera back.

09-15-2014, 11:35 PM	#13
Giklab Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Slovenia Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,182	Originally posted by hjoseph7 I have the K-5 IIs and the dust removal is so quiet I don't even know it's ON. I would send the camera back. He's not hearing the dust removal though...

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09-16-2014, 12:09 AM	#14
kpl Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 38	That sound ist absolutely ok. Mine does that, too. It did that sound when I unboxed it and it still does that after several thousands of shutter actuations Nothing to worry about. Cheers, kpl