Upgrading from the k10d to either k-x/k-r

nirvanaguy19 · 11-03-2010, 11:27 PM

Hi guys
upgrading my trusted k10d to either the k-r/k-x. i was set on the k-x but see that k-r corrects the minor flaws like selected af points not visible in VF , higher fps. DxO reports suggests k-x is slightly better at higher iso. Coming form k10d which is not really usable over 800, will i notice this small difference. Also i like that with the k-r both AA as well as custom battery can be used so thats a definite plus

Last edited by nirvanaguy19; 11-03-2010 at 11:54 PM.

sjwaldron · 11-03-2010, 11:52 PM

I think the K-r would be a better purchase moving forward if money isn't too much of a factor. Also keep in mind you would need to buy rechargeable batteries and a charger for the K-x along with the factors you mentioned like the k-x not having focus lights.

**GeneV** · 11-04-2010, 05:53 AM

Originally posted by nirvanaguy19

Hi guys
upgrading my trusted k10d to either the k-r/k-x. i was set on the k-x but see that k-r corrects the minor flaws like selected af points not visible in VF , higher fps. DxO reports suggests k-x is slightly better at higher iso. Coming form k10d which is not really usable over 800, will i notice this small difference. Also i like that with the k-r both AA as well as custom battery can be used so thats a definite plus

I love my K-x. I put more shutter actuations on it more quickly than any SLR I've owned. That being said, I'd go for the K-r. I do really miss the AF points in the viewfinder, and, unless I read a bunch of reports from people I know here that the DxO differences really played out to be significant in the real world, that feature, alone, would make the difference to me if I were buying today.

cabstar · 11-04-2010, 07:23 AM

i just sold my k-x for another gx20 why?

edials
viewfinder size
IQ
shutter noize
grip

yes k-x has great iso abilities but those reasons sbove convinced me to sell

Pablom · 11-04-2010, 07:39 AM

sounds like a downgrade to me...

reeftool · 11-04-2010, 07:40 AM

I'm considering picking up the Kx as a second body just based on the price. I'm saving for a K5 and will probably spring for one later next year. I always leave my focus point set at center but my only concern was that somehow I could accidently change that setting and not know it. I would be using it almost entirely for indoor and low light shooting so it wouldn't be making kayak and backpacking trips either. Those $425 ads on the Forum front page look awful tempting. If it drops to under $400, maybe I'll jump.

paperbag846 · 11-04-2010, 07:42 AM

The K-x or K-r would be an upgrade if you require iso 1600 + 3200.

Don't pay attention to DXOmark... their tests are more or less misleading for the average photographer. Statistically significant does not equal artistically significant

.

You will likely notice it to be a "downgrade" in build quality and external features.

Between the KX and KR, I would select the K-X because they can be had for so little. I tend to buy the previous generation, though, because I believe that is where you find true value.

In fact, the K-X and K10d would make good companions. I believe the K10d would be better for iso 100-400, and the k-x would be better for ISO 800-3200.

winglik · 11-04-2010, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by Pablom

sounds like a downgrade to me...

That's True. I have the K10D and "upgraded" to the K-x last year. After one year, I wasn't satisfy with the K-x, specially with the blur image.(I tried in 2 K-x Bodies) I went back to the K10D last month, Low ISO in the K10D rocks, and I never missed the K-x. Only advantage of the k-x is the high ISO. So I guess you should get the K-r for a little more money.

Last edited by winglik; 11-04-2010 at 07:57 AM.

nirvanaguy19 · 11-04-2010, 08:42 AM

Thanks guys
Yep, not necessarily an upgrade but a 2nd body. the other reason for wanting a new cam is that my camera recently fell with flash attached taking out the hotshoe base along with it (flash is fine mysteriously)

looks like i will be getting a k-r next month

songhuagao · 11-04-2010, 10:24 PM

I think, kr is more beautiful than kx....

ovim · 11-04-2010, 11:14 PM

I've upgraded from K200D (pretty much the same sensor as K10D) to K-r and here's a few thoughts after a few days of light use. (I haven't used the K-x so can't compare to it):

+ Shooting in low light is much better, the high ISO performance is really good
+ FPS is much better, I think I can get something like 11 RAW shots in one burst instead of 4 with K200D (in roughly the same time too). I'm not much of a machine gunner but I think it'll come handy when shooting fast action.
+ Somewhat smaller size, although I've got quite big hands I like the small size.
+ Autofocus is improved. I mainly use vintage mf glass but I've tested the AF and it seems quicker with less small adjustments at the end.

+/- Rear LCD size and IQ is really good, although I find it annoying when it lights up (to show ISO/aperture/shutter speed if shutter button is not half-pressed) under your eyes while looking through the viewfinder. I hope there is a menu setting to change this, but haven't searched for it yet. So I kind of miss the simple top LCD.

- Button layout/size. Some of the buttons are smaller and in different places. But I'm already slowly getting used to it so I don't think it's going to be a problem for long.

11-03-2010, 11:27 PM	#1
nirvanaguy19 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 47	Upgrading from the k10d to either k-x/k-r Hi guys upgrading my trusted k10d to either the k-r/k-x. i was set on the k-x but see that k-r corrects the minor flaws like selected af points not visible in VF , higher fps. DxO reports suggests k-x is slightly better at higher iso. Coming form k10d which is not really usable over 800, will i notice this small difference. Also i like that with the k-r both AA as well as custom battery can be used so thats a definite plus Last edited by nirvanaguy19; 11-03-2010 at 11:54 PM.

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11-03-2010, 11:52 PM	#2
sjwaldron Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,236	I think the K-r would be a better purchase moving forward if money isn't too much of a factor. Also keep in mind you would need to buy rechargeable batteries and a charger for the K-x along with the factors you mentioned like the k-x not having focus lights.

11-04-2010, 05:53 AM	#3
GeneV Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,772	Originally posted by nirvanaguy19 Hi guys upgrading my trusted k10d to either the k-r/k-x. i was set on the k-x but see that k-r corrects the minor flaws like selected af points not visible in VF , higher fps. DxO reports suggests k-x is slightly better at higher iso. Coming form k10d which is not really usable over 800, will i notice this small difference. Also i like that with the k-r both AA as well as custom battery can be used so thats a definite plus I love my K-x. I put more shutter actuations on it more quickly than any SLR I've owned. That being said, I'd go for the K-r. I do really miss the AF points in the viewfinder, and, unless I read a bunch of reports from people I know here that the DxO differences really played out to be significant in the real world, that feature, alone, would make the difference to me if I were buying today.

11-04-2010, 07:23 AM	#4
cabstar Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Grimsby UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 224	i just sold my k-x for another gx20 why? edials viewfinder size IQ shutter noize grip yes k-x has great iso abilities but those reasons sbove convinced me to sell

11-04-2010, 07:39 AM	#5
Pablom Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Jerusalem Posts: 1,940	sounds like a downgrade to me...

11-04-2010, 07:40 AM	#6
reeftool Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,070	I'm considering picking up the Kx as a second body just based on the price. I'm saving for a K5 and will probably spring for one later next year. I always leave my focus point set at center but my only concern was that somehow I could accidently change that setting and not know it. I would be using it almost entirely for indoor and low light shooting so it wouldn't be making kayak and backpacking trips either. Those $425 ads on the Forum front page look awful tempting. If it drops to under $400, maybe I'll jump.

11-04-2010, 07:42 AM	#7
paperbag846 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,396	The K-x or K-r would be an upgrade if you require iso 1600 + 3200. Don't pay attention to DXOmark... their tests are more or less misleading for the average photographer. Statistically significant does not equal artistically significant . You will likely notice it to be a "downgrade" in build quality and external features. Between the KX and KR, I would select the K-X because they can be had for so little. I tend to buy the previous generation, though, because I believe that is where you find true value. In fact, the K-X and K10d would make good companions. I believe the K10d would be better for iso 100-400, and the k-x would be better for ISO 800-3200.

11-04-2010, 07:45 AM	#8
winglik Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 258	Originally posted by Pablom sounds like a downgrade to me... That's True. I have the K10D and "upgraded" to the K-x last year. After one year, I wasn't satisfy with the K-x, specially with the blur image.(I tried in 2 K-x Bodies) I went back to the K10D last month, Low ISO in the K10D rocks, and I never missed the K-x. Only advantage of the k-x is the high ISO. So I guess you should get the K-r for a little more money. Last edited by winglik; 11-04-2010 at 07:57 AM.

11-04-2010, 08:42 AM	#9
nirvanaguy19 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 47 Original Poster	Thanks guys Yep, not necessarily an upgrade but a 2nd body. the other reason for wanting a new cam is that my camera recently fell with flash attached taking out the hotshoe base along with it (flash is fine mysteriously) looks like i will be getting a k-r next month

11-04-2010, 10:24 PM	#10
songhuagao New Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 6	I think, kr is more beautiful than kx....

11-04-2010, 11:14 PM	#11
ovim Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Tre, Finland Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,227	I've upgraded from K200D (pretty much the same sensor as K10D) to K-r and here's a few thoughts after a few days of light use. (I haven't used the K-x so can't compare to it): + Shooting in low light is much better, the high ISO performance is really good + FPS is much better, I think I can get something like 11 RAW shots in one burst instead of 4 with K200D (in roughly the same time too). I'm not much of a machine gunner but I think it'll come handy when shooting fast action. + Somewhat smaller size, although I've got quite big hands I like the small size. + Autofocus is improved. I mainly use vintage mf glass but I've tested the AF and it seems quicker with less small adjustments at the end. +/- Rear LCD size and IQ is really good, although I find it annoying when it lights up (to show ISO/aperture/shutter speed if shutter button is not half-pressed) under your eyes while looking through the viewfinder. I hope there is a menu setting to change this, but haven't searched for it yet. So I kind of miss the simple top LCD. - Button layout/size. Some of the buttons are smaller and in different places. But I'm already slowly getting used to it so I don't think it's going to be a problem for long.