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11-06-2010, 10:49 AM   #1
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Looking to spend $1000... k-r or k-x...?

I'm looking to buy either a k-x w/18-55mm & 55-300mm or k-r w/same range lenses. My budget is around $1000 (CAD). I don't really want to wait too long to get it as I've been without a camera for quite a while. Sill kinda waiting to see if we get any rebate offers here in Canada. I'd like to make a purchase at the end of this month (November) or before if I find a good deal and make up my mind...

This will be my first DSLR (though I'm not new to taking pictures), and either one would most likely be fine. I like some of what the k-r has over the k-x though... af assist lamp, larger buffer/faster fps, af points in viewfinder, ect...

So far I'm leaning towards the k-r, but it is a bit too expensive (will be around $1100 CAD to get one with the two kit lenses). The k-x + lenses can be found for a pretty good price and a few months ago it was the camera I was set on getting when I had the money together. Now I have the money (a little more than what I had originally planned to have) and can't make up my mind. I may not be able to spend the extra saved on the k-x kit on lenses or other equipment so the kit will likely be all I get for a while either way.

Anyone care to give me some suggestions?
What would you do right now if you had $1000 to spend and these were the two cameras you were looking at?

11-06-2010, 11:09 AM   #2
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I have not used the K-r but have the K-x. I have also owned the K100D Super and the K20D.

To my mind the K-r is not worth the upgrade over the K-x for the simple reason that it does not improve the ergonomics by adding the second dial. That is worth a lot, but until you have had a good year with both setups you might not realise. Of course, if you never use M mode it might not matter as much... as always all of these opinions are predicated on use patterns and expectation.

The K-x kit has been available in N. America for some pretty crazy low prices (not sure about Canada specifically). If you find the package with the DA55-300 then go for it, as this might be the only telephoto lens you ever need (is for me).

Buying the cheaper camera means you can put the rest of your money towards lenses. Good glass is forever. New bodies are replaced every year. I heartily recommend putting the balance towards a fast 50. that will open up whole new photographic possibilities the zooms simply cannot offer. With this body and three lens kit you might be good for several years, depending on how itchy you get.

Which fast 50 you obtain depends on how much money you have remaining in your kitty. The absolute pinnacles would be the FA43/1.8, A560/1.2 or FA50/1.4, depending on your preferences.
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I found the k-x 18-55 & 55-300 kit for around $670 US.
It's around $900 still most places here in Canada.
Can get the k-r kit for just over $1000 shipped from newegg.ca
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I may sound like a broken record but I think that I'd go for the K-x with the 55-300 and then use the difference to upgrade the 18-55 to a 16-45 and a couple of manual focus primes and maybe a flash. That little upgrade will take you from a great entry level kit to decent mid level kit that can do some remarkable things for the money.

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QuoteOriginally posted by photochimp Quote
I found the k-x 18-55 & 55-300 kit for around $670 US.
It's around $900 still most places here in Canada.
Can get the k-r kit for just over $1000 shipped from newegg.ca
Aden Camera, k-x double kit: C$ 749.99
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Sorry, I meant to say I've seen the k-x around $800 not $900... that $750 price looks even more tempting. Still can't make up my mind though. The k-r has some really useful features the k-x doesn't. If I see a rebate or something soon for the k-r that makes it's price make more sense I'll likely get one. I just don't want to wait much longer...

If I do go with the k-x kit... any recommendations for a macro lens under $300?
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QuoteOriginally posted by rparmar Quote
Buying the cheaper camera means you can put the rest of your money towards lenses. Good glass is forever. New bodies are replaced every year.
Robin, that is something I try to get across to every young photographer I know--including 16 year olds that lust for a Canon 5d.

Glass not is not only more enduring, but it gives you creative options. Having used the K-x extensively over the last year, and recognizing its shortcomings compared with bodies that offer multiple dials or focus point indicators, I'd be hard-pressed to find glass in my collection that I would trade for those features if the dollars had to remain the same.
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Watch for a Sigma EX DG 105mm f2.8 macro, you should be able to get one used for around $300.00 USD

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For 1000, I would get a used K-x here at the marketplace with a used 16-45 mm and a used 55-300 DA.

K-x: $430.00
16-45mm: $240.00
DA 55-300mm: $290.00

The extra can go toward shipping if any or a cleaning kit.

I think the K-x takes marvelous photos, and sure it doesn't have the dots in the view finder, or the LCD does not have as high a resolution, and ISO is not nearly as good, but the photos that the K-x produces will be 98% of what a K-r can do.

And personally, I much rather use a DA 55-300 for the quick shift (super useful) and for the green strip =P, haha.
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I do understand the importance of good lenses, and also understand that camera bodies change all the time, but I just can't help but be interested in the k-r.
Some of it's features are features I'd like to have in a camera.

So far, the k-x + kit lenses for 750 or the k-r + kit lenses for 950... I don't know...
The k-r has more features I want, but the k-x looks like a great camera for a great price...
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It may definitely be worth your while to wait a bit longer. The december shopping season is bound to do wonders for K-x and K-r prices.
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Isn't the K-r double kit a lot cheaper than 1000,- though? Newegg.ca - PENTAX K-r Lens Kit Black 12.4 MP 3.0" 921k LCD Digital SLR with DA L 18-55&50-300 Lens
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I must be the only K-X owner who thinks that a K-R is a worthwhile update. The improved AF with assist lamp and visible AF points in the viewfinder are quite important to me.
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QuoteOriginally posted by photochimp Quote
I do understand the importance of good lenses, and also understand that camera bodies change all the time, but I just can't help but be interested in the k-r.
Some of it's features are features I'd like to have in a camera.

So far, the k-x + kit lenses for 750 or the k-r + kit lenses for 950... I don't know...
The k-r has more features I want, but the k-x looks like a great camera for a great price...
I'd never (intentionally) discourage interest in the K-r. It has features I'd like to have in my K-x. My point is simply that if money is tight, most of the time, glass gives you more than camera features.
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The k-r kit will be just over $1000 with tax and shipping.
The listed price was $999 a day or two ago (before that it was $1019.99), and today it's $917.
I will probably keep waiting to see what happens as Christmas gets closer.

I know I'd be happy with a k-x, but I think I'd be happer with a k-r. Money is almost always tight for me, but every once in a while I get a bit extra and can afford something nice. Why not go for when I can? I'm thinking the 18-55 and 55-300 kit lenses will be enough for me have some fun and take some nice shots as I learn my way around the camera. If it takes me 6 months or a year to get some more/better lenses that's fine.
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