Bsamcash - I know the Pentax kit 18-55mm is f/3.5-5.6.... I said:
"The idea of getting the Sigma 17-70mm with the camera is that it would give me a "modern" fully-functioning lens as a multi-purpose walk-around. Yes, I know the Pentax one is f/4 constant and is a far better lens..." The reference is to the Pentax Lens DA 17-70mm f4AL(IF) SDM - which costs AUD$725.00 here.
The Sigma 17-70mm DC MAC is f/2.8-4.5, so has slightly better light ability, (than the kit 18-55mm) a bit more zoom, and 1:2 Macro - and as I can't afford a lot of new lenses, is more versatile than the 18-55 kit lens.
As for Ebay and Amazon - I don't have credit-cards - on a pension I have to save-up until I can afford things I want. Also - cameras and lenses from online like those places, don't have Australian Warranties. If they did, everyone here would buy at those extremely cheap US prices...
Dragra - I don't need to pay extra for the Pentax kit 50-200mm. I already have a Tamron 80-210mm M42, and a Sigma 100-300mm K-mount. Those cover the "50-200mm" range - and while they might be low-quality lenses, will "make-do" until the Pentax ED 55-300mm.
If those 2 lenses I have are "worse than" what the Fuji HS10 can do in JPEG / RAW at the same distance, I can use the Fuji in the meantime....
UKwoody - My location, including suburb, to within 1km, is in the left column beside all of my posts. To clarify, Croydon Park, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.
My disabilities are diabetes, well in control, COPD, also well in control, and a limited left shoulder movement - can't raise left arm above head, for all other angles is okay.
I have a quite neat light rucksack with inner partitions and outer pockets. Quite comfy with 2 x P&S cameras, plenty of spare Eneloops, a Slik F740 tripod, wet-weather parka, lunch, and flask of cold drink... So can add a small K-R and a few lenses quite easily... I'm on public transport, but get around Sydney, and up and down the coast about 150km North and South, on a daily $2.50 all-modes pensioner ticket...
So long as I don't try to move too fast - I'm quite mobile and able to carry a pack.
As the K-R has about 15-times the sensor size - and 2Mpix more - and costs another $300.00 (plus lenses) over the Fuji HS10, I'd be somewhat peeved if its IQ
didn't do more than just "knock the spots off" any darned Bridge-Zoom P&S....
The K-R doesn't have all the buttons and controls on the outside of the case like the HS10, but from the Reviews and K-R Manual - it seems that you can set it up for current conditions from the Menus, and have enough external controls to use.
The HS10 on Continuous does 13-7-5-3fps on JPEG only, 5-3fps on RAW, RAW+JPEG. The top Continuous is too fast to be usable for most things (13fps at 1/4000th - humming-bird wings, maybe...?) - so mostly use 7fps or 5fps - so the K-R's 6fps should feel 'familiar'.
While the HS10 sure has a steep learning-curve - and the usual odd "Fuji-foibles" - stick it on a tripod - use Manual and the quick-easy Manual Focus - don't use the "last 2x" of the zoom - that is, stop at about 28x - and it works rather better than one might expect from a 10Mpix 1/2.3" BSI-CMOS sensor.... I "luvvit" - certainly don't regret buying it!
Dave.