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ursamajor · 02-16-2011, 05:57 AM

I just asked my money back from the Pentax RO representative, because they didn't replace my camera (anyway, another would have the same issue). As far as they know, a solution wasn't found.
I'll give a chance of 3-4 weeks to Pentax to solve the FF issue, then I'll buy a 550D. I like the Kr, but without FF.

Last edited by ursamajor; 02-16-2011 at 07:01 AM.

3drives · 02-16-2011, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by ursamajor

Unfortunatelly, it was too nice to be true...

Front focus issue, in tests/real life photos.

Tungsten:

Even daylight:

If I had portrait pictures like that, I would be satisfied. That's just me though.

ursamajor · 02-16-2011, 10:38 AM

Indeed, but what you don't know is that I focused on the other (OOF) eye. For me it's intolerable. I can permit other "malfunctions", but not severe AF problems.

Hypocorism · 02-16-2011, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by ursamajor

I'll give a chance of 3-4 weeks to Pentax to solve the FF issue, then I'll buy a 550D. I like the Kr, but without FF.

That would surely be a retrograde step IMhO, the 600D (or better yet, 60D) have the right goods in comparison to the now aged 550D.
Although I can see your point, are you expecting the new 600D presence on the market to force 550D prices more in your favour?

I sometimes regret not waiting for the A580, can see great value and potential there and it should help propel Sony up the ladder a bit more if it has no silly faults.

.R.

ursamajor · 02-16-2011, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by Hypocorism

Although I can see your point, are you expecting the new 600D presence on the market to force 550D prices more in your favour?

IMHO, I believe that the more noticeable upgrade of the 600D is his benefic influence in the decrease of the price of 550D.

A 60D I cannot buy, it's too expensive for me, but I could buy a second hand 50D, a very good camera.
For now, I'll wait up to a month the resolution of the FF issue from Pentax. Paradoxically, I really like the camera. This is the reason for giving it a chance.

ursamajor · 03-13-2011, 05:33 AM

After my unpleasant experience with the Kr and after the firmware update of K5 who solved just partially the ff problem (probably, the same way will be to Kr), I decided to buy a Canon 550D (Rebel T2i). I did it today, from a local electronics hypermarket. I tested it there and at home. Obviously, no ff/bf issues (even in low tungsten light). All is how it must be.
Now, about Pentax: pity, the cameras are better built than Canon's, but the functionallity is... far away from Canon. If they don't create a competitive AF system and they don't improve the quality control, they will not have the chance to be a big photo company.
Like I said, I'm not the fanboy of any brand, but I can discern between a serious company and a not serious one. Unfortunatelly, Pentax IS one of these.

PS: I'll still watch to see if Pentax will fix something of Kr's issues, but I'm very, very skeptical.
PPS: now I can take pictures to my daughter without the fear that her eyes will be blurry.

ursamajor · 03-13-2011, 09:03 AM

Doggie, doggie...

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Hypocorism · 03-13-2011, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by ursamajor

Like I said, I'm not the fanboy of any brand, but I can discern between a serious company and a not serious one. Unfortunatelly, Pentax IS one of these.

PS: I'll still watch to see if Pentax will fix something of Kr's issues, but I'm very, very skeptical.
PPS: now I can take pictures to my daughter without the fear that her eyes will be blurry.

That's an excellent image ursa. I'm sure your new camera will easily live up to its claims for you, the 550D is very high respected in the real world with a great track record -- huge range of affordable accessories too.

One question though; I don't believe Canon would make such a silly mistake like below in their Exif metadata [and FastStone Viewer certainly doesn't, and I don't think MS Photo Viewer would have any clandestine motive either]; so what erroneous bastardisation would have caused it, a crop factor of 8 doesn't make sense in any DLSR/APS-C world?

Ref: "View picture Exif"

Focal Length18.0mm (35mm equivalent: 143mm)

.R.

ursamajor · 03-13-2011, 10:21 AM

Commencing with the final: I've no idea why that error appears. I just edited the photo with PhotoFiltre Studio X, a very good software.

And thank you for your words. It's not so hard for me to be pleased. If Kr had a good AF system, now I was a pentaxian. Yes, 550D is a good camera, especially for my hobby, the astrophoto/film. The Movie Crop feature is astonishing.

You Tube

PS: look another picture (50mm, f/1.8@3.2). Maybe the Exif is modified by the forum. By the way, with Kr I didn't even dream to take a picture like this.

PS: I stop now my pleading, because I don't want to disturb some people with blinders.

photochimp · 03-13-2011, 10:38 AM

Those are some nice shots, ursamajor... though they do seem a bit soft.
Nothing my k-r can't do, though, and I'm sure many other k-r owners can say the same.
Sorry yours didn't work out, but many others are not having the same problem (or at least not to the same degree).
I almost bought a 550D, but then I saw the k-r... don't regret it one bit.
Anyway, hopefully you will stop bashing the k-r now, and go take some pictures.

ursamajor · 03-13-2011, 10:54 AM

"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept" - H. Cartier Bresson

Corect focus isn't.

I don't know the settings of the forum concerning the (re)compression. You can see the sharpest picture HERE.
Enjoy your Kr, me and many others couldn't. I really hope you'll have a good firmware fix, but, sincerelly, I doubt it.

Originally posted by photochimp

Anyway, hopefully you will stop bashing the k-r now...

The Kr, yes, maybe not, but Pentax for sure... Could help the others who want real good cameras.

mbukal · 03-13-2011, 11:27 AM

da se pohvalim,prodao k-x i kupio i postao ponosni vlasnik k-r,imam i ja problema sa ff (jako loše u odnosu na k-x),u af fino podešavanje stavio sam na -10 i čini mi se da je sada u redu,kada če firmware koji če to ispraviti

03-13-2011, 09:37 AM	#38
Hypocorism Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Melbourne .au Posts: 623	Originally posted by ursamajor Like I said, I'm not the fanboy of any brand, but I can discern between a serious company and a not serious one. Unfortunatelly, Pentax IS one of these. PS: I'll still watch to see if Pentax will fix something of Kr's issues, but I'm very, very skeptical. PPS: now I can take pictures to my daughter without the fear that her eyes will be blurry. That's an excellent image ursa. I'm sure your new camera will easily live up to its claims for you, the 550D is very high respected in the real world with a great track record -- huge range of affordable accessories too. One question though; I don't believe Canon would make such a silly mistake like below in their Exif metadata [and FastStone Viewer certainly doesn't, and I don't think MS Photo Viewer would have any clandestine motive either]; so what erroneous bastardisation would have caused it, a crop factor of 8 doesn't make sense in any DLSR/APS-C world? Ref: "View picture Exif" Focal Length18.0mm (35mm equivalent: 143mm) .R. Last edited by Hypocorism; 03-13-2011 at 11:58 AM.

03-13-2011, 10:54 AM	#41
ursamajor Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 242 Original Poster	"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept" - H. Cartier Bresson Corect focus isn't. I don't know the settings of the forum concerning the (re)compression. You can see the sharpest picture HERE. Enjoy your Kr, me and many others couldn't. I really hope you'll have a good firmware fix, but, sincerelly, I doubt it. Originally posted by photochimp Anyway, hopefully you will stop bashing the k-r now... The Kr, yes, maybe not, but Pentax for sure... Could help the others who want real good cameras. Last edited by ursamajor; 03-13-2011 at 09:24 PM.

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02-16-2011, 05:57 AM	#31
ursamajor Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 242 Original Poster	I just asked my money back from the Pentax RO representative, because they didn't replace my camera (anyway, another would have the same issue). As far as they know, a solution wasn't found. I'll give a chance of 3-4 weeks to Pentax to solve the FF issue, then I'll buy a 550D. I like the Kr, but without FF. Last edited by ursamajor; 02-16-2011 at 07:01 AM.

02-16-2011, 08:05 AM	#32
3drives Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 60	Originally posted by ursamajor Unfortunatelly, it was too nice to be true... Front focus issue, in tests/real life photos. Tungsten: Even daylight: If I had portrait pictures like that, I would be satisfied. That's just me though.

02-16-2011, 10:38 AM	#33
ursamajor Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 242 Original Poster	Indeed, but what you don't know is that I focused on the other (OOF) eye. For me it's intolerable. I can permit other "malfunctions", but not severe AF problems.

02-16-2011, 12:33 PM	#34
Hypocorism Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Melbourne .au Posts: 623	Originally posted by ursamajor I'll give a chance of 3-4 weeks to Pentax to solve the FF issue, then I'll buy a 550D. I like the Kr, but without FF. That would surely be a retrograde step IMhO, the 600D (or better yet, 60D) have the right goods in comparison to the now aged 550D. Although I can see your point, are you expecting the new 600D presence on the market to force 550D prices more in your favour? I sometimes regret not waiting for the A580, can see great value and potential there and it should help propel Sony up the ladder a bit more if it has no silly faults. .R.

02-16-2011, 12:52 PM	#35
ursamajor Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 242 Original Poster	Originally posted by Hypocorism Although I can see your point, are you expecting the new 600D presence on the market to force 550D prices more in your favour? IMHO, I believe that the more noticeable upgrade of the 600D is his benefic influence in the decrease of the price of 550D. A 60D I cannot buy, it's too expensive for me, but I could buy a second hand 50D, a very good camera. For now, I'll wait up to a month the resolution of the FF issue from Pentax. Paradoxically, I really like the camera. This is the reason for giving it a chance.

03-13-2011, 09:03 AM	#37
ursamajor Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 242 Original Poster	Doggie, doggie... Attached Images

03-13-2011, 10:38 AM	#40
photochimp Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 70	Those are some nice shots, ursamajor... though they do seem a bit soft. Nothing my k-r can't do, though, and I'm sure many other k-r owners can say the same. Sorry yours didn't work out, but many others are not having the same problem (or at least not to the same degree). I almost bought a 550D, but then I saw the k-r... don't regret it one bit. Anyway, hopefully you will stop bashing the k-r now, and go take some pictures.

03-13-2011, 11:27 AM	#42
mbukal Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: zagreb Posts: 668	da se pohvalim,prodao k-x i kupio i postao ponosni vlasnik k-r,imam i ja problema sa ff (jako loše u odnosu na k-x),u af fino podešavanje stavio sam na -10 i čini mi se da je sada u redu,kada če firmware koji če to ispraviti