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02-24-2011, 06:39 AM   #16
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@ OP - You don't say what type of photography you are interested in. I have the K-R two lens kit with the 55-300mm. If you are wanting to shoot in tungsten light, some people have reported a focus problem in this type of lighting. My K-R does not focus well in tungsten light. Sunlight, CFL, etc. are OK. About the two lens kit - the lenses that come with the kit are not the same as the ones sold alone at retail. While the same optically, they do not have 'quick shift' focus, do not come with a lens hood and have a plastic mount. I bought lens hoods on ebay for cheap and the plastic mount does not bother me, but I like the 'Quick shift' focus feature and miss it.

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I cant compare to the K-R, but i just got an A580 today and so far i am extremely impressed with the sensor. Im not use to the layout yet. Having come from a K-X and a K200d i can certainly say the A580 has better low light performance and autofocus.

Frankly, i am shocked there isnt MORE talk about the A580 on here from the people that wanted the K5 but couldnt afford it (like me)
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Who did WHAT to a k-r? lol
03-24-2011, 12:51 PM   #19
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QuoteOriginally posted by boriscleto Quote
The correct spelling is analyzed. The way you have it spelled is more appropriate to a pornographic video
I was feeling bad for the poor Kr! As to the OP's question, I have gone through the CaNikon systems with a 40D and D90. they were both excellent camera's, but on my budget, Pentax kept drawing my back. I have a K5 now and wouldn't trade it for any other camera (unless a full lineup of lenses was also included). You can't really go wrong with any of the camera's you are looking at though, they are all excellent.

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Given the relationship between anal retentive personality and obssesive need for detail, 'analized' is a highly suitable term for some to use. Let's add it to the lexicon of camera user terms -"analizers". This can also serve as a synonym for Pixel Peepers.
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Given the relationship between anal retentive personality and obssesive need for detail, 'analized' is a highly suitable term for some to use. Let's add it to the lexicon of camera user terms -"analizers". This can also serve as a synonym for Pixel Peepers.

I won't.. waste time with this reply of yours.

I will say, though, that i am the kind of guy that researches a product before buying it (i'm guessing you buy your car, TV or any other alike just by walking in a store and seeing it?) Maybe you do, but for my budget the k-r was 2 full month's worth of paycheck. Knowing well corporate approach to consumers (the items we buy aren't really meant to last that long and be very good, because if they do we wouldn't be buying more products) i did do a bit of reading before making my choice.

As for the subtle hint at the end of your tunnel-vision-arrogant-reflex-response, i DID buy this k-r eventually, despite it's known fault everyone's talking about.

Good luck in life
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Wasn't referring to you, Penumbra

Hi Penumbra, I was amused by your spelling of analyzed/er and thought that it could become a new word for the much maligned pixel peeper.

My comment on this word made no reference to your own habits, whatever they may be and any connection between my comments and yourself as a person are at worst accidental and at best non-existent, except in your own mind.

The fact that you choose to research a purchase is fine by me and a good example to others.

I regret that you felt impugned in some way or the other but I think objective observers might think you are taking matters overly personally.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Penumbra Quote
Sincere thanks to those that replied so far and to those that maybe will reply.

Please look at this:
DxOMark - Nikon D5000 and go at the ISO Sensitivity tab.

What i get from there is that the D5000 actually cheats, using these numbers we, or should i say I analyze so much when choosing a tool.

At ISO 800 the D5000 actually has a sensitivity of 564 ISO, for example. At 1600 the measured value is 1060!! Hats off to Pentax, where, if you look, the values are nearly identical to the manufacturer specified.

Hmmm. But still, the questions remain, for now.

Bid you farewell and will get back here tomorrow.

Best wishes!
All DxO charts take this into account on their other graphs and measurements.

You should, however, read how they account for their Low-light score: it may not match your expectations.

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I have had my K-r for three weeks shooting in all kinds of light with no focus problems at all. I have used several lenses, including Sigma 50-500 EX DG, Pentax 55-300, Pentax 80-320, Pentax 16-45, Pentax 35-70 F 3.5-4.5, and pentax 50-135. Have yet to try my others. The other day I got some really good shots with the 50-500 hand held. Absolutely no auto focus issues. I almost always use the view finder. My settings I use, 70% of the time are aperture priority mode, 20% manual mode, and 10% others. I bought this camera as a low light backup to my K20, but I find myself using the K-r more than I thought I would. Bottom line? Much better camera than it is getting credit for.

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