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03-09-2011, 06:58 PM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by boriscleto Quote
Only 50? I thought it was closer to 200.
I was referring to this month ... :-)

QuoteOriginally posted by chukers Quote
I just didn't want to spend that much all at once... I know as soon as I get the camera I'll want a zoom lens too!
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Used ones show up in the Marketplace from time to time for about $275-300, even cheaper for the DAL version, which is optically the same. Many people get the DAL with the camera as the combo then sell the lens and upgrade. Just buy a hood if you get that version.

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is this lens worth considering?

PENTAX DA 50-200mm f/4-5.6 ED Weather Resistant Lens

I know its not a 300 but it is a $150 cheaper than the 300.. how big of a difference is the zoom on a 300 then the 200?

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QuoteOriginally posted by chukers Quote
is this lens worth considering?

PENTAX DA 50-200mm f/4-5.6 ED Weather Resistant Lens

I know its not a 300 but it is a $150 cheaper than the 300.. how big of a difference is the zoom on a 300 then the 200?

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I have asked that question many a times here and I always got 55-300 as the answer because it is optically better than 55-200. I now own DA L version of 55-300 and I can't be happier.

Check out my recent thread here to see what a newbie can do with this lens - https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/post-your-photos/134128-nature-day-zoo.html
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QuoteOriginally posted by chukers Quote
is this lens worth considering?

PENTAX DA 50-200mm f/4-5.6 ED Weather Resistant Lens

I know its not a 300 but it is a $150 cheaper than the 300.. how big of a difference is the zoom on a 300 then the 200?

Chuck
In addition to the 55-300mm being optically superior, the extra reach has always been useful to me.

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QuoteOriginally posted by chukers Quote
is this lens worth considering?

PENTAX DA 50-200mm f/4-5.6 ED Weather Resistant Lens

I know its not a 300 but it is a $150 cheaper than the 300.. how big of a difference is the zoom on a 300 then the 200?

Chuck
Most of us here know your struggle. Some of us have turned that struggle into an adventure. Or "condition" rather.
You have a budget. You hope to have a great deal of fun with photography but sometimes under the condition of spending little money. Only you can put a price on your standards and what you get out of photography.
Many of us have or had the DA 50-200. Then at some point, we changed our expectations in our photography and wanted something more. Some chose lenses like the DA 55-300.
I received the DA 50-200 ED with my first digital body, the K10. I really liked it. Compact, capable and it's reach was acceptable. You could get a relatively nice image with it, enlarge and crop a bit to make it look like you were a little closer. One of my first and most satisfying uses of my 50-200 was at a local air show. A 500mm lens got me too close most times and the 50-200 not close enough at times unless I cropped. I slowly felt the need to get greater magnification. And the path was winding and misdirected some will say.
The 55-300 may be worth saving a little longer for by most accounts. Just depends on how much fun (read as money) you want to have getting there.
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Are you really sure you want a 300mm or is it just a "I want to try it" move? Don't forget there are several older Pentax lenses that could be included for a lot less money. I own an F 100-300. It's very light in weight and can be bought used cheap when they are available. It would make a good trial lens for sure.
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Are you really sure you want a 300mm or is it just a "I want to try it" move? Don't forget there are several older Pentax lenses that could be included for a lot less money. I own an F 100-300. It's very light in weight and can be bought used cheap when they are available. It would make a good trial lens for sure.
The FA 80-320 is another cheap route to 300mm. If you don't need 300mm the F 70-210 is a better lens than the 50-200.
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QuoteOriginally posted by chukers Quote
It looks like the Pentax DA 55mm-300mm is the best choice... I was afraid of that... I am quickly coming to the same conclusion... I just didn't want to spend that much all at once... I know as soon as I get the camera I'll want a zoom lens too!


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Exactly what happened to me. I bought the K-r with the 18-55mm lens and immediately determined that I needed a zoom. Spend a bit more than I otherwise would have buying them all together.

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I am going to get a 300mm zoom lens for my K-R... what one should I get...
The DA 55-300 was the first lens I bought (along with the DA 17-70) when I decided to go with Pentax. I've since bought and sold a few lenses after deciding to invest in only primes, but I've still got the DA 55-300. I have many times wondered if the guys at Photozone didn't have a poor copy when they rated its resolution (not that they give a bad rating, just not good enough) because I have been impressed again and again with its IQ. The only reason I consider selling it sometimes is because I have all the focal lengths I want covered up to 180, and so might one day decide on a dedicated 300mm FL.

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QuoteOriginally posted by chukers Quote
It looks like the Pentax DA 55mm-300mm is the best choice... I was afraid of that... I am quickly coming to the same conclusion... I just didn't want to spend that much all at once... I know as soon as I get the camera I'll want a zoom lens too!


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Well you may just be a little impatient at that. Maybe watch the forum Marketplace and test your fortitude by hoping and waiting for a lens from your short list to appear. Meanwhile you can have some fun with whatever shorter focal length lens or lenses you may have. Maybe get lucky and find an inexpensive manual xx-210 on Craigslist locally for small change and use that to help you think about what a zoom lens means to you and the cost to achieve that means. Since the K-r is not "weather resistant", paying for a "weather resistant" lens is not all that practical at this point.
And as pointed out, DA and DA L versions of the 55-300 appear often enough around the Marketplace. Look around there for good copies and think it over. Wait for the right price to come along.
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QuoteOriginally posted by piledon Quote
Exactly what happened to me. I bought the K-r with the 18-55mm lens and immediately determined that I needed a zoom. Spend a bit more than I otherwise would have buying them all together.
The 18-55 is a zoom lens

Joking aside; I had the same thoughts (and I had 20 years previous SLR experience) so I bought the DA55-300 within a month of purchasing my first dSLR. The DA55-300 has spend most of its life in its pouch and only sees occasional use (possibly 250 shots by now of which about 70 shots in the week of purchase). Living in a wildlife country it made sense but I have not done any wildlife with it yet.
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Adorama has the 55-300mm DA L for 219.95.

21897 Pentax SMC P-DAL 55-300mm f/4.0-5.8 ED Auto Focus Telephoto Zoom Lens
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That is an interesting consideration, chukers. Read the terms closely and understand the warranty as well as what is not included with a DA L version.
Might get you Site Supporter classification as well.

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Thank you all for your thoughts and ideas... I knew going into the lens selection portion of my purchase would end this way... I knew that I would end up with what you most agree on... I was just trying to find an alternative route... but it looks like the DA 55mm-300mm is the lens of choice as I expected it would be. Its not that I don't have the budget to spend on things like this... I just don't have the nerve to spend the money I do have LOL.

Again thank you all!


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Well another thought is a Sigma 28-300 DG. Just a little wider. You might find one new on discounted close out at a Ritz nearest you for under $200. A few have appeared on The Marketplace as well. They are around $300 new at places like B&H and Adorama. I am glad I did not pay full price for the one I bought but I think it is a capable alternative to the DA 50-300.
However, if both lenses are $200 new and neither came with lens hood... Well I would have a tough choice knowing what I now know and guessing properties like you may be at the moment.
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