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The EXCLUSIVE GALLERY ("PEG") at PentaxForums
Posted By: Adam, 08-05-2010, 06:05 AM

Hello everyone,

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I am very happy to announce that an idea we've had in the back of our minds for a good while has finally been brought to life! Today we're officially unveiling the PentaxForums Exclusive Gallery, which is conceptually similar to Pentax's PPG. At first, we wanted this gallery to also appear fancy and have cool effects, but we found that other solutions wouldn't offer the level of integration that this one did. So, let's jump right in to what we're looking at here.

Our Exclusive Gallery will become a collection of only the best photos taken by our users. Only PentaxForums.com users will be able to submit to this gallery. We will also be imposing certain quality standards to make sure the photos are at their very best.

To submit a photo to the gallery, simply click the 'upload' link in the upper gallery toolbar, or click here. The submission form is the same as that in our other gallery categories, so you should already be familiar with the controls. The following will be required of each photo:
  • JPEG format and compression at 90%-100% (9-12).
  • A resolution of at least 1024x700 (WxH or HxW) pixels; preferably around 1500 or 2000px on one edge
  • Full EXIF left intact in the file, if digital
  • Manual addition of EXIF metadata, if film
  • A photo description and complete camera/lens fields
  • If you choose to place copyright text in your photo, please do so in the lower-right or lower-left corner only
  • No added frames, borders, or drawings
  • Taken with a Pentax camera (no exceptions)
  • Limit 2 submissions per user day (to be fair to our judges)
If your photo conforms to these regulations, it will then be evaluated by the site staff. If the photo is good enough, it'll be approved into the gallery; if not, we'll simply move it to a regular category. You will be able to submit as many photos as you'd like until 10 have been approved in the gallery. This limit is currently going to be in place so that every photographer gets about equal exposure, but may increase in the future.

Why this is going to be better than the PPG:
  • Not a slow flash-based gallery
  • Large resolutions will be available for your viewing pleasure
  • Comments can be made
  • More great photos will be posted!
  • Feedback on your photo will be e-mailed to you once a decision has been made
  • The approval decision will be made within 1 week at most (apply to be a judge)
  • Status tracking at https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/galleryapprove.php?do=status and updates on status via e-mail
  • It's integrated with your favorite photo forum
And, best of all:
  • If 5 or your photos get approved into the gallery, you will be invited to become an Exclusive Gallery judge
So, why wait? Upload your best now!

A note to newbies: the gallery is accessible through the 'photos' button in the navbar. Simply click it and then select 'User Photo Gallery' from the menu.

Enjoy, guys! I'm very excited to be bringing you this.

Photos accepted into the gallery will also be tagged as "exclusive" in gallery searches and listings, and within the exclusive category, supersized thumbnails will be shown!

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03-24-2011, 03:30 PM   #331
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Here's a tip- don't "spam" all related photos at once, as gives rise to the possibility of comparing photos to each other, and makes it obvious to the judges that all the photos are from the same person (normally this information is hidden, which is also why watermarks are discouraged). Out of any given collection, only one photo is best, and that might end up working to your disadvantage


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03-24-2011, 04:40 PM   #332
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Two days ago I saw three of my photos accepted. Today I got emails saying two had been rejected. And third has just disappeared. All were, I believe in the PEG, with Pentax Exclusive Gallery under their photos. My Aloe had 5 stars. I can't find the Aloe now.

I'm not dissatisfied, with PEG, just confused a bit about the process.

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03-24-2011, 06:17 PM   #333
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The photos were actually never accepted. After a few technical changes, there was a bug that made all submissions by *cough* judges go through without first being approved. I didn't realize this until today, so I pulled all the affected photos manually and forced them into the approval process. The bug has been patched since then- sorry for the confusion!

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03-24-2011, 06:33 PM   #334
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Thanks Adam. Too bad about bugs but there is no way to detect all of them before they happen. I appreciate you explaining to me what happened. I feel better now.

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QuoteOriginally posted by yeatzee Quote
That negative comment is rather pathetic IMO...... I actually searched the image expecting a distracting spider web but saw nothing. It actually took me a good couple of minutes to realize it was the little white strings on the twig itself. Give me a break
No doubt it's a great shot Tanner. There is some evidence of oversharpening here though, and I wonder whether the comment made about the spider web was referring to a different image...
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QuoteOriginally posted by Ash Quote
No doubt it's a great shot Tanner. There is some evidence of oversharpening here though, and I wonder whether the comment made about the spider web was referring to a different image...
Obviously I don't have the full sized image so I have no way of telling whether it has any true IQ or not. BUT, from the posted size it looks lovely.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Ash Quote
Also understand that images are not accepted just because of one vote or one negative comment. The voter providing the 'negative' remark just had the guts (or the words) to justify their vote, so it's unwarranted singling out such a voter. It takes more than one 'no' vote to reject an image.

Thanks Ash for the info of how the voting in the committee works.
With regards to my initial post #318, there wasn't a single "negative" remark & yet the pic was rejected. Does it mean this pic might be 1 or more "no" vote that couldn't make it to PEG?

Finally, please reserve these posts and comments for the PEG Rejects thread.

Didn't know there's a PEG Rejects thread? It's a good thread, sure I'll post there instead.
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Why do you want to get further images accepted into the PEG?

Hope to reach "Pentaxian" which requires 10 accepted PEG pics.

There is no prestige; you would have to submit to proper contests with professional judges to be able to claim that an acceptance means something.

Acceptance decisions for the PEG are obviously governed not only by the merit of a photo. Adam said that many submissions raise the standard so it is not just about how good an individual photo is. I don't quite understand this part because Adam also said the PEG was about "beautiful photos to look at" and the latter can be achieved without raising standards when submission numbers rise. If the idea were to get the "best" only then surely one would have to revisit previous acceptances and replace them with newer submissions that exceed them in quality. The "changing the criteria on the fly" approach doesn't make much sense to me. But maybe I'm misunderstanding something.

The PEG has its advantages and disadvantages. People tried to change it before and failed. So if I were you, I wouldn't mind about the rejects. They don't really say a lot about your work and what it should mean to you.

I don't mind about reject, just wanted to find out as in post #318.
The other 2 cases brought out is to vioce out for discussion especially case 2 which I don't really understand what the comment meant?
There are other rejects with constructive comments which I repect them & redo the pic to resubmit again.
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QuoteOriginally posted by yeatzee Quote
That last shot is fantastic! That negative comment is rather pathetic IMO...... I actually searched the image expecting a distracting spider web but saw nothing. It actually took me a good couple of minutes to realize it was the little white strings on the twig itself. Give me a break
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No doubt it's a great shot Tanner. There is some evidence of oversharpening here though, and I wonder whether the comment made about the spider web was referring to a different image...
Actually the pic that I posted is the one that I've removed the spider web (it's actually hardly visible with only 3-4 hair lines). I followed the comment to remove the 'spider web', resubmitted it & I got back the same comments. Like yeatzee, this is the part which I don't understand unless the comment refer to the little white strings on the twig itself as what yeatzee found out? Hence I ended there, never further edit the pic to remove the little white strings as I wanted the pic to to retain the "nature look".
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Here's a tip- don't "spam" all related photos at once, as gives rise to the possibility of comparing photos to each other, and makes it obvious to the judges that all the photos are from the same person (normally this information is hidden, which is also why watermarks are discouraged). Out of any given collection, only one photo is best, and that might end up working to your disadvantage
Thanks Adam for the tip, it's really helpful.
Ddin't know the committee has no idea the pic belongs to which owner?
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Ddin't know the committee has no idea the pic belongs to which owner?
Yup, that information is hidden (unless the watermark gives it away!). The only visible info is the picture title and the full version of the image.

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All images rejected would have had to have a number (don't know how many) of 'no' votes regardless. It is not mandatory for voters to give any feedback on the images they vote on, but as it turns out (and as human nature dictates) we seem to comment on images we like, and not on those we don't. People have differing personal policies when it comes to feedback, but as it stands, we have to accept that rejected images will not always have any feedback to back it up. This has been discussed a few times before in the PEG Rejects thread.
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Hello.

I'm one of the judges. Just wanted to put up a quick link to LRPS Interactive Guide - The Royal Photographic Society - it has a great section on common picture faults that might help anyone submitting stuff.

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Nass, thanks for the link. It leads to a zipped download folder - and after downloading and extracting the files, I am left with a lot of unknown extension files and a bunch of jpgs. Do you know what to do to actually read the "interactive guide"?
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