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The EXCLUSIVE GALLERY ("PEG") at PentaxForums
Posted By: Adam, 08-05-2010, 06:05 AM

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I am very happy to announce that an idea we've had in the back of our minds for a good while has finally been brought to life! Today we're officially unveiling the PentaxForums Exclusive Gallery, which is conceptually similar to Pentax's PPG. At first, we wanted this gallery to also appear fancy and have cool effects, but we found that other solutions wouldn't offer the level of integration that this one did. So, let's jump right in to what we're looking at here.

Our Exclusive Gallery will become a collection of only the best photos taken by our users. Only PentaxForums.com users will be able to submit to this gallery. We will also be imposing certain quality standards to make sure the photos are at their very best.

To submit a photo to the gallery, simply click the 'upload' link in the upper gallery toolbar, or click here. The submission form is the same as that in our other gallery categories, so you should already be familiar with the controls. The following will be required of each photo:
  • JPEG format and compression at 90%-100% (9-12).
  • A resolution of at least 1024x700 (WxH or HxW) pixels; preferably around 1500 or 2000px on one edge
  • Full EXIF left intact in the file, if digital
  • Manual addition of EXIF metadata, if film
  • A photo description and complete camera/lens fields
  • If you choose to place copyright text in your photo, please do so in the lower-right or lower-left corner only
  • No added frames, borders, or drawings
  • Taken with a Pentax camera (no exceptions)
  • Limit 2 submissions per user day (to be fair to our judges)
If your photo conforms to these regulations, it will then be evaluated by the site staff. If the photo is good enough, it'll be approved into the gallery; if not, we'll simply move it to a regular category. You will be able to submit as many photos as you'd like until 10 have been approved in the gallery. This limit is currently going to be in place so that every photographer gets about equal exposure, but may increase in the future.

Why this is going to be better than the PPG:
  • Not a slow flash-based gallery
  • Large resolutions will be available for your viewing pleasure
  • Comments can be made
  • More great photos will be posted!
  • Feedback on your photo will be e-mailed to you once a decision has been made
  • The approval decision will be made within 1 week at most (apply to be a judge)
  • Status tracking at https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/galleryapprove.php?do=status and updates on status via e-mail
  • It's integrated with your favorite photo forum
And, best of all:
  • If 5 or your photos get approved into the gallery, you will be invited to become an Exclusive Gallery judge
So, why wait? Upload your best now!

A note to newbies: the gallery is accessible through the 'photos' button in the navbar. Simply click it and then select 'User Photo Gallery' from the menu.

Enjoy, guys! I'm very excited to be bringing you this.

Photos accepted into the gallery will also be tagged as "exclusive" in gallery searches and listings, and within the exclusive category, supersized thumbnails will be shown!

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08-16-2014, 01:28 PM   #571
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samartur, I am familiar with your image as I commented on it three of the times I saw it submitted here. I assume your score must have been close to an acceptance to warrant all the tweaks and resubmissions you made? Nevertheless, the image had merit as a line study but the nearly 1/3 of the lower half being in dark shadow (recovered in PP) detracted from the visual appeal, IMO. The sky was very plain and showed a good deal of noise, whether from the scan or otherwise, and sadly did not meet my personal judging critera.

I have seen dozens of great images from Zabriskie Point and encourage you to give it another try when you return.
here are a few random images that I found that either benefit from some sky interest or utilize the shadow lines in the composition.
good luck!

http://www.sfmoma.org/images/artwork/medium/51.3209.12_01_b02.jpg (Ansel Adams composed the lines to great effect)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sieren/6925128888 (this has a strong fan-like foreground with some pleasing sky color)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ladigue_99/8594037042 (uses an S-curve leading line to great effect)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dompix/4173115405/in/photostream/lightbox/ (emphasis on the white peak and inclusion of a field of stars)

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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
FWIW, I don't submit to the monthly contests or PEG. I have a dozen or so images accepted at PPG (Pentax Photo Gallery), but am no longer active there. I suppose a few of my images might make the cut, but I know that my work reflects my tastes, which tend to be a little eccentric at times. As a good friend once put it, "Your work is good, very good, Steve, but it has an edge."

For a sampling, here is the link to my Flickr account. I am just ending a strange phase so please scroll down a bit to the normal stuff.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/28796087@N02/

...


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nice work Steve. I left a few comments on your flickr stream. thanks for sharing


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08-16-2014, 04:13 PM   #572
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QuoteOriginally posted by mikeSF Quote
samartur, I am familiar with your image as I commented on it three of the times I saw it submitted here. I assume your score must have been close to an acceptance to warrant all the tweaks and resubmissions you made? Nevertheless, the image had merit as a line study but the nearly 1/3 of the lower half being in dark shadow (recovered in PP) detracted from the visual appeal, IMO. The sky was very plain and showed a good deal of noise, whether from the scan or otherwise, and sadly did not meet my personal judging critera.

I have seen dozens of great images from Zabriskie Point and encourage you to give it another try when you return.
here are a few random images that I found that either benefit from some sky interest or utilize the shadow lines in the composition.
good luck!

http://www.sfmoma.org/images/artwork/medium/51.3209.12_01_b02.jpg (Ansel Adams composed the lines to great effect)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sieren/6925128888 (this has a strong fan-like foreground with some pleasing sky color)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ladigue_99/8594037042 (uses an S-curve leading line to great effect)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dompix/4173115405/in/photostream/lightbox/ (emphasis on the white peak and inclusion of a field of stars)

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nice work Steve. I left a few comments on your flickr stream. thanks for sharing
Thanks Mike. I was a bit disappointed myself with the noise in the image. As for the proper lighting, the location gets too harsh during the day. The only time you can do a reasonable job is in the morning. The light hits the mountain tops first and the shadow line creeps down as the time advances (time lapse can be interesting). Maybe I should have waited a little longer (but only little). I appreciate your comments and as always, I strive to learn from someone like you. I have no regrets since I tried at least. I felt I let down the great work of nature than anything else.

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QuoteOriginally posted by mikeSF Quote
samartur, I am familiar with your image as I commented on it three of the times I saw it submitted here. I assume your score must have been close to an acceptance to warrant all the tweaks and resubmissions you made? Nevertheless, the image had merit as a line study but the nearly 1/3 of the lower half being in dark shadow (recovered in PP) detracted from the visual appeal, IMO. The sky was very plain and showed a good deal of noise, whether from the scan or otherwise, and sadly did not meet my personal judging critera.

I have seen dozens of great images from Zabriskie Point and encourage you to give it another try when you return.
here are a few random images that I found that either benefit from some sky interest or utilize the shadow lines in the composition.
good luck!

http://www.sfmoma.org/images/artwork/medium/51.3209.12_01_b02.jpg (Ansel Adams composed the lines to great effect)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sieren/6925128888 (this has a strong fan-like foreground with some pleasing sky color)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ladigue_99/8594037042 (uses an S-curve leading line to great effect)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dompix/4173115405/in/photostream/lightbox/ (emphasis on the white peak and inclusion of a field of stars)

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nice work Steve. I left a few comments on your flickr stream. thanks for sharing
My salute to you for all the great contributions you have made
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QuoteOriginally posted by mikeSF Quote
samartur, I am familiar with your image as I commented on it three of the times I saw it submitted here. I assume your score must have been close to an acceptance to warrant all the tweaks and resubmissions you made? Nevertheless, the image had merit as a line study but the nearly 1/3 of the lower half being in dark shadow (recovered in PP) detracted from the visual appeal, IMO. The sky was very plain and showed a good deal of noise, whether from the scan or otherwise, and sadly did not meet my personal judging critera.

I have seen dozens of great images from Zabriskie Point and encourage you to give it another try when you return.
here are a few random images that I found that either benefit from some sky interest or utilize the shadow lines in the composition.
good luck!

http://www.sfmoma.org/images/artwork/medium/51.3209.12_01_b02.jpg (Ansel Adams composed the lines to great effect)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sieren/6925128888 (this has a strong fan-like foreground with some pleasing sky color)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ladigue_99/8594037042 (uses an S-curve leading line to great effect)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dompix/4173115405/in/photostream/lightbox/ (emphasis on the white peak and inclusion of a field of stars)

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nice work Steve. I left a few comments on your flickr stream. thanks for sharing
Today I got the negative film re-scanned at high-res in a camera store (not the cheap retail service which I used earlier). I have attached the image. You will notice a world of difference in quality, noise included. Still not good enough to get into the pantheon of exclusives but just made me happy looking at it, The location I chose is used by hundreds or thousands of photographers. There are some better spots to provide better composition which needed a bit of hiking up a mountain which I did not have time to do.

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QuoteOriginally posted by samartur Quote
Thanks Mike. I was a bit disappointed myself with the noise in the image. As for the proper lighting, the location gets too harsh during the day. The only time you can do a reasonable job is in the morning. The light hits the mountain tops first and the shadow line creeps down as the time advances (time lapse can be interesting). Maybe I should have waited a little longer (but only little). I appreciate your comments and as always, I strive to learn from someone like you. I have no regrets since I tried at least. I felt I let down the great work of nature than anything else.

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My salute to you for all the great contributions you have made
Panoramic view with some re-scanned images. I think it looks a lot better. i usually post some of these images in National Geographic photo section also.

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QuoteOriginally posted by mikeSF Quote
samartur, I am familiar with your image as I commented on it three of the times I saw it submitted here. I assume your score must have been close to an acceptance to warrant all the tweaks and resubmissions you made? Nevertheless, the image had merit as a line study but the nearly 1/3 of the lower half being in dark shadow (recovered in PP) detracted from the visual appeal, IMO. The sky was very plain and showed a good deal of noise, whether from the scan or otherwise, and sadly did not meet my personal judging critera.

I have seen dozens of great images from Zabriskie Point and encourage you to give it another try when you return.
here are a few random images that I found that either benefit from some sky interest or utilize the shadow lines in the composition.
good luck!

http://www.sfmoma.org/images/artwork/medium/51.3209.12_01_b02.jpg (Ansel Adams composed the lines to great effect)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sieren/6925128888 (this has a strong fan-like foreground with some pleasing sky color)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ladigue_99/8594037042 (uses an S-curve leading line to great effect)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dompix/4173115405/in/photostream/lightbox/ (emphasis on the white peak and inclusion of a field of stars)

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nice work Steve. I left a few comments on your flickr stream. thanks for sharing
There is still noise in the re-scanned images (looks better in rendition as seen in pano I sent earlier). Any thoughts why this can be. I have used ISO 100 film.


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QuoteOriginally posted by samartur Quote
Today I got the negative film re-scanned at high-res in a camera store (not the cheap retail service which I used earlier). I have attached the image. You will notice a world of difference in quality, noise included. Still not good enough to get into the pantheon of exclusives but just made me happy looking at it, The location I chose is used by hundreds or thousands of photographers. There are some better spots to provide better composition which needed a bit of hiking up a mountain which I did not have time to do.
Yes, much cleaner. I like the second shot better.


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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
Yes, much cleaner. I like the second shot better.


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That is what i think. But the noise in the sky bothers me (if you blow up the image). Looked without the zoom it looks good. BTW, this is pretty much how it looked from end to end from this lookout.

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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
Yes, much cleaner. I like the second shot better.


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Is re-scanning from the negatives as good as doing directly from the film canister? I got a few strips done at Mike's camera store today. Earlier scan from Costco was 3087 x 2048 and today from Mike's is 4535 x 3035. I do like to think there is an improvement. Maybe I am barking the wrong tree.

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QuoteOriginally posted by samartur Quote
Is re-scanning from the negatives as good as doing directly from the film canister? I got a few strips done at Mike's camera store today. Earlier scan from Costco was 3087 x 2048 and today from Mike's is 4535 x 3035. I do like to think there is an improvement. Maybe I am barking the wrong tree.
I will send you a private message.

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So the first one I ever submitted got in, rejections ever since. Two of the five rejections were accompanied by an email with the scores and critique/suggestions. I wonder why only two? It would have been nice to learn what the judges thought about the rest (complete junk?, so be it, I'd still want to know).


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Two of my pix were rejected. Thing is, I haven't submitted anything (competitions aren't my cuppa joe; not near yet anyway). Now, I feel all the more rejected.










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QuoteOriginally posted by MD Optofonik Quote
Two of my pix were rejected. Thing is, I haven't submitted anything (competitions aren't my cuppa joe; not near yet anyway). Now, I feel all the more rejected.
You must have chosen a category other than PEG when submitting. I made the same mistake when I tried for the first time a couple of weeks ago. When submitting, don't go for any of the available categories (landscape etc.), just leave it at PEG. I hope I am making sense here.
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QuoteOriginally posted by MD Optofonik Quote
Two of my pix were rejected. Thing is, I haven't submitted anything
My first "submission" was like that. I was just uploading a photo, and didn't pay close attention to one of the selections during the upload. Next thing I know I get an e-mail telling me my photo didn't make the grade.

Oh well . . . . . .
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QuoteOriginally posted by MD Optofonik Quote
Two of my pix were rejected. Thing is, I haven't submitted anything (competitions aren't my cuppa joe; not near yet anyway). Now, I feel all the more rejected.










QuoteOriginally posted by Racer X 69 Quote
My first "submission" was like that. I was just uploading a photo, and didn't pay close attention to one of the selections during the upload. Next thing I know I get an e-mail telling me my photo didn't make the grade.

Oh well . . . . . .
Wow! That explains so very much how some of the images in the judging queue got there. I am sure that both of the above were quite nice shots, but there are quite a few that don't appear to be "best work".


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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
Wow! That explains so very much how some of the images in the judging queue got there. I am sure that both of the above were quite nice shots, but there are quite a few that don't appear to be "best work".


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hmm, that may be the reason we occasionally get a few stray cats in the submissions.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Pentaxpixie Quote
You must have chosen a category other than PEG when submitting. I made the same mistake when I tried for the first time a couple of weeks ago. When submitting, don't go for any of the available categories (landscape etc.), just leave it at PEG. I hope I am making sense here.
QuoteOriginally posted by Racer X 69 Quote
My first "submission" was like that. I was just uploading a photo, and didn't pay close attention to one of the selections during the upload. Next thing I know I get an e-mail telling me my photo didn't make the grade.

Oh well . . . . . .
They were never submitted and they were posted to my gallery months ago, back in March, way before PEG.

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All kidding aside. I'm not going to submit any photos to PEG for awhile, if ever. I'll certainly post, occasionally, in various threads because I occasionally take a photograph that I don't hate or need technical advise about. However, like my music, I create for my own reasons and I'm not interested in the words "rejected" or "accepted" (but, I am human and those words do tend to illicit emotional responses). I would like to continue posting photos I don't hate in the future as long as they aren't up for PEG criticism. If the way to avoid this is only posting links to my Flickr images let me know and I'll not post to my gallery here.

I must sound like some sort of emotional jellyfish but really, I'm not. I just react very negatively to artistic competition because I'm not competing and don't want to be viewed as doing so.
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