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Trying to do raw--settled for j-peg --for now
Lens: pentax 18-250 Camera: k20d Photo Location: Saugus 
Posted By: charliezap, 02-17-2011, 07:44 PM

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I've never taken a raw photo in my life.All my photos that you have seen over the years have been j-pegs.I finally downloaded a program to work raw but it has me "wrapped around the axel" but The fog is lifting after every session and in the next few days I should know what I'M DOING.The night wasn't a total loss and I was able to salvage a j-peg shot with my k20d doing its thing with a "filter shot"
Hey---I'm Polish--A senior citizen and prone to many mistakes and I'm an old dog trying to learn new tricks. This photo was taken in the kitchen and the clock in the window at left is a relection from the right wall.Life was easier with film but what can I say besides you snooze-you lose" in this fast pace of technology that leaves you behind if you don't pay attention.---charlie "old dog " zap
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02-17-2011, 08:06 PM   #2
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I know the feeling.....most of my pics are jpegs too. Occasionally, I play with raw, but quite frankly, I usually end up screwing up the image and am right back to where I started from. I normally don't do a lot of PP, so jpegs work ok for me.
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I'm a bit thick but I don't get why raw sparks fear in people. How is it any different to process then JPG? I actually think it's easier because of the flexibility...
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I know the feeling.....most of my pics are jpegs too. Occasionally, I play with raw, but quite frankly, I usually end up screwing up the image and am right back to where I started from. I normally don't do a lot of PP, so jpegs work ok for me.
I use Paint Shop Pro 8.1 and It has served me well for pp work in j-peg.Right now I'm playing with raw and if I spend an hour learning how to do a simple function I consider that at my age a success.

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Hey Charlie, no matter what you used it turned out pretty cool looking. I like the camera filter settings that can be used, I just don't use them enough. thanks Bob
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Post processing with RAW is actually easier than with JPEG so long as you have the right tool. I'd recommend Lightroom if you can afford it or Aperture* (if you have a Mac and don't want to spend more than $80).

* with some reservations due to Apples seeming inability to get RAW processing right since RAW 3.0
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Post processing with RAW is actually easier than with JPEG so long as you have the right tool. I'd recommend Lightroom if you can afford it or Aperture* (if you have a Mac and don't want to spend more than $80).

* with some reservations due to Apples seeming inability to get RAW processing right since RAW 3.0
I noticed that my Paint Shop Pro has RAW.If I can open a pic in it I should be all set.Right now I'm using Pentax Lab 3 and Picasa will let me work RAW to a small degree.---charliezap
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Hilarious! I use Paint-shop Pro 8 too! I had to get a plug-in for pentax raw, .... once I did that, software works fine. Now, the user of that software is another question....but I keep trying.

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I can say for myself, that working with raw files has learned me faster lot of stuff about photography and system limitations - I can see and manually and consciously correct them in PP - chromatic aberration, light fall-of, distortion, moiré, wrong exposure etc.
I use LR 3.3
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"zap" is Polish??? Would not have thunk it.
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Hey Capn - I've always shot in RAW (because the files are lossless), so I really don't know what my K20D will do in JPEG (same with my new LX5). I convert using the Pentax software that came with my camera - my adjustments are almost always confined to tweaks (if necessary) of exposure, contrast and white balance. I do everything else with the derivative JPEG file with PSP.

If I can do it - anybody can.

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QuoteOriginally posted by charliezap Quote
I noticed that my Paint Shop Pro has RAW.If I can open a pic in it I should be all set.Right now I'm using Pentax Lab 3 and Picasa will let me work RAW to a small degree.---charliezap
Charlie,

I use Paint Shop Pro X and it does not recognize raw files from my DS, let alone your K20D. I suggest you use your raw converter to fix your histogram (blown highlights) and white balance. If the program can save the file as a tiff (lossless), you can continue adjusting your image in PSP with the tiff file. If not, save it as a jpeg and work with that.

I've been thinking about posting a PSP Post Processing Article where before and after shots can be posted with the processing steps used. Would you find that helpful?

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Hilarious! I use Paint-shop Pro 8 too! I had to get a plug-in for pentax raw, .... once I did that, software works fine. Now, the user of that software is another question....but I keep trying.
Where did you find a plug-in for Pentax raw? I would love to use it with PSP X.

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"zap" is Polish??? Would not have thunk it.
Add a couple more letters and an "ski" at the end and there you have it----charlie zap--ski
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I've received a few PM about the plugin I'm using for paint shop pro 8 that allows me to open .PEF files. I had the page bookmarked on the Pentax Canada site, but just discovered the site has been re-organized and thus my bookmark is a dead link.

The plug-in I'm using was designed for Photoshop (I believe) but i installed it in my Paint-Shop Pro ver 8 and it works fine. Let me see if I can find the file in its new location, and if so I will post an update this weekend. Worse case, I have the plug-in backed up, so I can always email it directly to those who are looking for it.

I've also been asked if it works in newer versions of Paint Shop Pro....and all I can say, "I don't know".

More later...

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