Landscape Same Shot two settings.

Same Shot two settings. · 06:01 PM

First shot was taken at 640 ISO, F7 at a 1/13 sec. The second I switched up to 200 ISO, F22 at 2.5 seconds. Cheers JIM

charliezap · 10-23-2011, 06:03 PM

Very nice comparison Jim.--charliezap

**Bob Harris** · 10-23-2011, 06:11 PM

Jim, I think the faster shutter speed shot is much better.

Jimbo · 10-23-2011, 06:23 PM

Thanks Guys. Here is one in between the two. This one was shot at 1000 ISO, 6.3 at 1/20 sec. JIM

Marcus Kauffman · 10-23-2011, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by Bob Harris

Jim, I think the faster shutter speed shot is much better.

I'm with Bob on this one. I hardly even know the guy but I think he's right this time.

TFS,

MK

Chex · 10-23-2011, 08:58 PM

I'm just partial to the silky smooth water effect of the long exposure.. The shorter exposure times do throw the water's more volatile action into the shot, a small stream like this doesn't portray "aggressive raging river"... more like "serene quiet stream in the forest".
wonder how long you could get @ 80 ISO - f22 + and a CPL and/or an ND filter...

Jimbo · 10-23-2011, 09:16 PM

Quote:

I'm just partial to the silky smooth water effect of the long exposure.. The shorter exposure times do throw the water's more volatile action into the shot, a small stream like this doesn't portray "aggressive raging river"... more like "serene quiet stream in the forest".
wonder how long you could get @ 80 ISO - f22 + and a CPL and/or an ND filter...

I would think 8-10 seconds which would have been cool too. JIM

Quote:

I'm with Bob on this one. I hardly even know the guy but I think he's right this time.

TFS,

Appreciate you taking the time to comment. JIM

Chex · 10-23-2011, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by Jimbo

I would think 8-10 seconds which would have been cool too. JIM

I regularly shoot with my 43Ltd @ f22 with a CPL + an ND8 and pull off 8-15 seconds depending on natural lighting...my rainy-day 18-135 with CPL and ND-8 zoomed to 135 can stop down to f40 and I can get even longer!

Jimbo · 10-24-2011, 06:15 AM

Quote:

I regularly shoot with my 43Ltd @ f22 with a CPL + an ND8 and pull off 8-15 seconds depending on natural lighting...my rainy-day 18-135 with CPL and ND-8 zoomed to 135 can stop down to f40 and I can get even longer!
__________________

Thanks for the infor. I have shot with both the CPL and a ND8 on and then its all about llghting and ISO setting. JIM

Chex · 10-24-2011, 04:49 PM

Well long exposure, I let it stay @ ISO 80 and let the time run as long as it needs!

tessfully · 10-24-2011, 06:22 PM

There is something about the swishes and swirls in the water of the first that appeals to me. I love seeing that movement. However, the second is amazing too with its silky softness. Which one do you prefer? I really should play with this technique more as I do live on a fast moving river. (When I have tried anything like this I often end up with blown highlights.) Thanks so much for sharing the photos and information.

Chex · 10-24-2011, 07:27 PM

Well after doing a quick google image search for Algonguin national park waterfalls" I would say that you should grab a circular polarizer &/or an ND4 or ND8 and a tripod and go visit a few of those falls! Some really nice rock layouts in some around there! Myself.. I need to talk to some more loggers logging truck drivers to find some of the more less-known ones in my neck of the woods.. Here are a few in my G+ waterfall album

Jimbo · 10-24-2011, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Well after doing a quick google image search for Algonguin national park waterfalls" I would say that you should grab a circular polarizer &/or an ND4 or ND8 and a tripod and go visit a few of those falls! Some really nice rock layouts in some around there! Myself.. I need to talk to some more loggers logging truck drivers to find some of the more less-known ones in my neck of the woods.. Here are a few in my G+ waterfall album

Quote:

There is something about the swishes and swirls in the water of the first that appeals to me. I love seeing that movement. However, the second is amazing too with its silky softness. Which one do you prefer? I really should play with this technique more as I do live on a fast moving river. (When I have tried anything like this I often end up with blown highlights.) Thanks so much for sharing the photos and information.
Today 04:49 PM

I have shots 100's of images of water movement and falls and each can have its own set of Challenges Tess. For me its all about lighting and contrast from the water to the surrounding area on what the set up should be, along with the effect you are trying to get. I did look through your link and you have some intersting images. Always appreciate feedback and I do learn from other photographers . Tess, always push yourself and you will be surprised at the outcome. Cheers and now on to the next adventure. JIM

Chex · 10-24-2011, 10:50 PM

Even with the Kit lens @ f22 on a cloudy day you could probably push 2-4 seconds or so, 4-8 seconds or so during blue hours no problem.. so if your willing to wait for the right light no filters are even needed.I hope you have fun trying them out.. sometimes even that little backyard stream can be composed to bring some satin-like magic through your lens.
Have fun and try and stay warm if you go out shooting before winter hits... fall is quickly becoming winter here, hope it's nicer out east!
I'm going to start shooting bracketed photo's next time I go out and see how well an HDR long exposure waterfall picture turns out.. just something I haven't tried yet.

**Sailor** · 10-25-2011, 08:22 AM

Great shots, buddy and a great primer on the technique. I like the second one the best, but . . . . heck . . . . . they're all cool.

Jer

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10-23-2011, 06:03 PM	#2
charliezap Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: saugus ma Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,686	Very nice comparison Jim.--charliezap

10-23-2011, 06:11 PM	#3
Bob Harris Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Canon City, Colorado Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18,477	Jim, I think the faster shutter speed shot is much better.

10-23-2011, 06:23 PM	#4
Jimbo Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Maple Ridge BC Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,368 Original Poster	Thanks Guys. Here is one in between the two. This one was shot at 1000 ISO, 6.3 at 1/20 sec. JIM

10-23-2011, 07:48 PM	#5
Marcus Kauffman Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: United States Photos: Gallery Posts: 353	Originally posted by Bob Harris Jim, I think the faster shutter speed shot is much better. I'm with Bob on this one. I hardly even know the guy but I think he's right this time. TFS, MK

10-23-2011, 08:58 PM	#6
Chex Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: The 'Stoke, British Columbia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,678	I'm just partial to the silky smooth water effect of the long exposure.. The shorter exposure times do throw the water's more volatile action into the shot, a small stream like this doesn't portray "aggressive raging river"... more like "serene quiet stream in the forest". wonder how long you could get @ 80 ISO - f22 + and a CPL and/or an ND filter...

10-23-2011, 09:16 PM	#7
Jimbo Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Maple Ridge BC Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,368 Original Poster	Quote: I'm just partial to the silky smooth water effect of the long exposure.. The shorter exposure times do throw the water's more volatile action into the shot, a small stream like this doesn't portray "aggressive raging river"... more like "serene quiet stream in the forest". wonder how long you could get @ 80 ISO - f22 + and a CPL and/or an ND filter... I would think 8-10 seconds which would have been cool too. JIM Quote: I'm with Bob on this one. I hardly even know the guy but I think he's right this time. TFS, Appreciate you taking the time to comment. JIM

10-23-2011, 09:18 PM	#8
Chex Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: The 'Stoke, British Columbia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,678	Originally posted by Jimbo I would think 8-10 seconds which would have been cool too. JIM I regularly shoot with my 43Ltd @ f22 with a CPL + an ND8 and pull off 8-15 seconds depending on natural lighting...my rainy-day 18-135 with CPL and ND-8 zoomed to 135 can stop down to f40 and I can get even longer!

10-24-2011, 06:15 AM	#9
Jimbo Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Maple Ridge BC Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,368 Original Poster	Quote: I regularly shoot with my 43Ltd @ f22 with a CPL + an ND8 and pull off 8-15 seconds depending on natural lighting...my rainy-day 18-135 with CPL and ND-8 zoomed to 135 can stop down to f40 and I can get even longer! __________________ Thanks for the infor. I have shot with both the CPL and a ND8 on and then its all about llghting and ISO setting. JIM

10-24-2011, 04:49 PM	#10
Chex Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: The 'Stoke, British Columbia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,678	Well long exposure, I let it stay @ ISO 80 and let the time run as long as it needs!

10-24-2011, 06:22 PM	#11
tessfully Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: S. Algonquin, Ontario Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,860	There is something about the swishes and swirls in the water of the first that appeals to me. I love seeing that movement. However, the second is amazing too with its silky softness. Which one do you prefer? I really should play with this technique more as I do live on a fast moving river. (When I have tried anything like this I often end up with blown highlights.) Thanks so much for sharing the photos and information.

10-24-2011, 07:27 PM	#12
Chex Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: The 'Stoke, British Columbia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,678	Well after doing a quick google image search for Algonguin national park waterfalls" I would say that you should grab a circular polarizer &/or an ND4 or ND8 and a tripod and go visit a few of those falls! Some really nice rock layouts in some around there! Myself.. I need to talk to some more loggers logging truck drivers to find some of the more less-known ones in my neck of the woods.. Here are a few in my G+ waterfall album

10-24-2011, 10:37 PM	#13
Jimbo Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Maple Ridge BC Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,368 Original Poster	Quote: Well after doing a quick google image search for Algonguin national park waterfalls" I would say that you should grab a circular polarizer &/or an ND4 or ND8 and a tripod and go visit a few of those falls! Some really nice rock layouts in some around there! Myself.. I need to talk to some more loggers logging truck drivers to find some of the more less-known ones in my neck of the woods.. Here are a few in my G+ waterfall album Quote: There is something about the swishes and swirls in the water of the first that appeals to me. I love seeing that movement. However, the second is amazing too with its silky softness. Which one do you prefer? I really should play with this technique more as I do live on a fast moving river. (When I have tried anything like this I often end up with blown highlights.) Thanks so much for sharing the photos and information. Today 04:49 PM I have shots 100's of images of water movement and falls and each can have its own set of Challenges Tess. For me its all about lighting and contrast from the water to the surrounding area on what the set up should be, along with the effect you are trying to get. I did look through your link and you have some intersting images. Always appreciate feedback and I do learn from other photographers . Tess, always push yourself and you will be surprised at the outcome. Cheers and now on to the next adventure. JIM

10-24-2011, 10:50 PM	#14
Chex Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: The 'Stoke, British Columbia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,678	Even with the Kit lens @ f22 on a cloudy day you could probably push 2-4 seconds or so, 4-8 seconds or so during blue hours no problem.. so if your willing to wait for the right light no filters are even needed.I hope you have fun trying them out.. sometimes even that little backyard stream can be composed to bring some satin-like magic through your lens. Have fun and try and stay warm if you go out shooting before winter hits... fall is quickly becoming winter here, hope it's nicer out east! I'm going to start shooting bracketed photo's next time I go out and see how well an HDR long exposure waterfall picture turns out.. just something I haven't tried yet.

10-25-2011, 08:22 AM	#15
Sailor Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Coastal Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 26,205	Great shots, buddy and a great primer on the technique. I like the second one the best, but . . . . heck . . . . . they're all cool. Jer