Abstract Unintentional multiple exposures: busted film advance = art?

alan_smithee_photos · 01:30 PM

Just got some film back from the lab and it would appear my MX has some issues with it's film advance. However, while I've never been able to take an intentional double-exposure that I've liked, I kinda love these (especially cropped out).

One uncropped:

(It's done this to me on the last two rolls. The first one I figured was just user-error. The camera's new to me and I thought I must've misloaded it. But it looks like somethings screwy with it.)

**Kerrowdown** · 05-06-2013, 01:40 PM

Don't let the model see this, she'll want double rates.

**Canada_Rockies** · 05-06-2013, 02:38 PM

Make sure the rewind release button locks all the way in. If that isn't the problem, it needs repair, I'm afraid.

alan_smithee_photos · 05-06-2013, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by Canada_Rockies

Make sure the rewind release button locks all the way in. If that isn't the problem, it needs repair, I'm afraid.

Hm, I need to try this. Just saw that you mentioned on a past post that you can do this by moving the sprockets by hand? Will it just pop back out (assuming it's not well and truly broken)? Is this a one-time thing or something that will need to be done repeatedly?

Thx much for the tip!

**Canada_Rockies** · 05-06-2013, 03:36 PM

I've had occasions when my film cameras were not correctly loaded, and other occasions when there was a grain of sand or something that made the rewind release button reluctant to seat itself. If your doubles only happen on the first image, this is a remote possibility, but highly unlikely because you run the sprockets three or four times when loading your film.

Play with no film and this possibility can be either confirmed or eliminated.

Tonto · 05-06-2013, 03:39 PM

How do yo do this intentionally? Do you need a manual wind camera?

mrNewt · 05-06-2013, 04:04 PM

That actually turned out really good ... great material for large print format and place it in a gallery - especially the last one.

alan_smithee_photos · 05-06-2013, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by Tonto

How do yo do this intentionally? Do you need a manual wind camera?

You do need a manual wind film camera to force double exposures. You can depress the rewind button (disengaging the film advance), cock the shutter, meter and take another exposure on the same frame.

**Canada_Rockies** · 05-06-2013, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by Tonto

How do yo do this intentionally? Do you need a manual wind camera?

Alan said it, yes you do. And he said how to do it also. And I'm late to reply. That's what I get for leaving an important conversation like this to play bridge to a 54.17% average for the last club session until fall.

barbosas · 05-07-2013, 05:18 AM

I like the effect it gives.

**dcmsox2004** · 05-07-2013, 06:45 AM

a happy accident... the abstract results are fantastic... dave m

daacon · 05-07-2013, 07:25 AM

I like them as well accident or otherwise. #1 is my favorite.

JenniferLeigh · 05-07-2013, 07:38 AM

I like them!

Quote:

Half of art is accident, but there is no accident without free experiment. ~ Ralph Steadman

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Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,833	Don't let the model see this, she'll want double rates.

05-06-2013, 02:38 PM	#3
Canada_Rockies Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sparwood, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,385	Make sure the rewind release button locks all the way in. If that isn't the problem, it needs repair, I'm afraid.

05-06-2013, 02:43 PM	#4
alan_smithee_photos Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 844 Original Poster	Originally posted by Canada_Rockies Make sure the rewind release button locks all the way in. If that isn't the problem, it needs repair, I'm afraid. Hm, I need to try this. Just saw that you mentioned on a past post that you can do this by moving the sprockets by hand? Will it just pop back out (assuming it's not well and truly broken)? Is this a one-time thing or something that will need to be done repeatedly? Thx much for the tip!

05-06-2013, 03:36 PM	#5
Canada_Rockies Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sparwood, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,385	I've had occasions when my film cameras were not correctly loaded, and other occasions when there was a grain of sand or something that made the rewind release button reluctant to seat itself. If your doubles only happen on the first image, this is a remote possibility, but highly unlikely because you run the sprockets three or four times when loading your film. Play with no film and this possibility can be either confirmed or eliminated.

05-06-2013, 03:39 PM	#6
Tonto Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Wellington Posts: 969	How do yo do this intentionally? Do you need a manual wind camera?

05-06-2013, 04:04 PM	#7
mrNewt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ON, RH Posts: 2,181	That actually turned out really good ... great material for large print format and place it in a gallery - especially the last one.

05-06-2013, 04:26 PM	#8
alan_smithee_photos Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 844 Original Poster	Originally posted by Tonto How do yo do this intentionally? Do you need a manual wind camera? You do need a manual wind film camera to force double exposures. You can depress the rewind button (disengaging the film advance), cock the shutter, meter and take another exposure on the same frame.

05-06-2013, 09:18 PM	#9
Canada_Rockies Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sparwood, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,385	Originally posted by Tonto How do yo do this intentionally? Do you need a manual wind camera? Alan said it, yes you do. And he said how to do it also. And I'm late to reply. That's what I get for leaving an important conversation like this to play bridge to a 54.17% average for the last club session until fall.

05-07-2013, 05:18 AM	#10
barbosas Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lisbon Photos: Gallery Posts: 683	I like the effect it gives.

05-07-2013, 06:45 AM	#11
dcmsox2004 Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: rhode island Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,522	a happy accident... the abstract results are fantastic... dave m

05-07-2013, 07:25 AM	#12
daacon Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Alberta,Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 20,914	I like them as well accident or otherwise. #1 is my favorite.

05-07-2013, 07:38 AM	#13
JenniferLeigh Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Southern Alberta Posts: 281	I like them! Quote: Half of art is accident, but there is no accident without free experiment. ~ Ralph Steadman