Nature ƒ2.8 or ƒ 16, you be the judge

ƒ2.8 or ƒ 16, you be the judge · 03:15 PM

With all the stuff about narrow DoF, I just need to ask, which do you like better, ƒ2.8 or ƒ16. I'd run a poll but I can't remember how.

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You be the judge.

normhead · 05-18-2013, 05:49 AM

Thanks for all the comments, I didn't take a photo at ƒ8, at ƒ 5.6 and ƒ 11 though....so I did a bit of pre-screening....I'm thinking for the 2.8 image, I have a 1.8- 50 and a 2.8-90, might have been time for a lens change to narrow the DoF even more on the first one. Hmmmm.... I wonder if htat snake is still there. But I quite like the second one, except for that leaf....it was so close to his face he was sure to move if I moved it... thanks for all the comments so far....

StephenHampshire · 05-18-2013, 06:24 AM - **1 Like**

I like the f2.8 but agree about the background and the leaf. I hope you don't mind Normhead but a rough and ready crop and clone exercise gave this....

normhead · 05-18-2013, 06:26 AM

Looks good Stephen, thanks for the effort.

Den · 05-18-2013, 06:28 AM

I'd go with the f16 and do some PP adding vignette and bokeh. I'd show you what I mean, but don't want to add an image without permission.

normhead · 05-18-2013, 06:31 AM

Originally posted by Den

I'd go with the f16 and do some PP adding vignette and bokeh. I'd show you what I mean, but don't want to add an image without permission.

Hey, go crazy....it's good to get people thinking about what might be done with the image. Showing is even better what could be done, even better.

Jean Poitiers · 05-18-2013, 09:30 AM

f16 gets my vote ... as said by many, all in focus ... J

**Kerrowdown** · 05-18-2013, 12:36 PM

It's not really about aperture, this thread should be about focal length of lens and how far away can we get from the reptile.

btw the F16 works for me.

**Bruce Clark** · 05-18-2013, 04:05 PM

I too agree with the f16 version. The snake in focus with it's environment. I do however see merit in the crops and other subsequent treatment.

Zafar Iqbal · 05-18-2013, 07:33 PM

f2.8 works better for me. The f16 shot is too cluttered IMO.

daacon · 05-19-2013, 06:28 AM

I am going for f16 that grass in the front too distracting at f2.8 and I am a professional , not a professional photographer by any means but a professional none the less ha!

slowpez · 05-19-2013, 07:55 AM

Tough one Norm but I have to go with the 2.8. The leaf is a bit distracting but I like how the snake seems to rise out of the ground. Although the body of the snake is OOF this adds to the effect and you can still tell it is part of the snake and pick out enough detail to satisfy the viewer. He is really a beautiful creature and looks like he just shed his old skin; he has that shiny glow they get after that process.

normhead · 05-19-2013, 04:24 PM

Thanks susan, you made me look at the pictures again.....

**Bob Harris** · 05-19-2013, 06:52 PM

I've enjoyed reading the different opinions Norm, interesting for sure. I'll take it at 16 for this old guy.

normhead · 05-19-2013, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by Bob Harris

I've enjoyed reading the different opinions Norm, interesting for sure. I'll take it at 16 for this old guy.

An interesting read for sure Bob.. I wonder if there's enough here for a Canada Council research grant. Seems like this info should be useful to someone somewhere. Maybe i can develop a whole personality test based on snake pictures.

Panteg · 05-27-2013, 07:10 AM

First one for me great shot,

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05-18-2013, 06:24 AM - 1 Like	#17
StephenHampshire Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Winchester Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,523	I like the f2.8 but agree about the background and the leaf. I hope you don't mind Normhead but a rough and ready crop and clone exercise gave this.... Last edited by StephenHampshire; 05-18-2013 at 06:25 AM. Reason: duplicate word

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normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451 Original Poster	Thanks for all the comments, I didn't take a photo at ƒ8, at ƒ 5.6 and ƒ 11 though....so I did a bit of pre-screening....I'm thinking for the 2.8 image, I have a 1.8- 50 and a 2.8-90, might have been time for a lens change to narrow the DoF even more on the first one. Hmmmm.... I wonder if htat snake is still there. But I quite like the second one, except for that leaf....it was so close to his face he was sure to move if I moved it... thanks for all the comments so far....

05-18-2013, 06:26 AM	#18
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451 Original Poster	Looks good Stephen, thanks for the effort.

05-18-2013, 06:28 AM	#19
Den Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Washington (State) Posts: 929	I'd go with the f16 and do some PP adding vignette and bokeh. I'd show you what I mean, but don't want to add an image without permission.

05-18-2013, 06:31 AM	#20
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451 Original Poster	Originally posted by Den I'd go with the f16 and do some PP adding vignette and bokeh. I'd show you what I mean, but don't want to add an image without permission. Hey, go crazy....it's good to get people thinking about what might be done with the image. Showing is even better what could be done, even better.

05-18-2013, 09:30 AM	#21
Jean Poitiers Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Lost in translation ... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18,076	f16 gets my vote ... as said by many, all in focus ... J

05-18-2013, 12:36 PM	#22
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,860	It's not really about aperture, this thread should be about focal length of lens and how far away can we get from the reptile. btw the F16 works for me.

05-18-2013, 04:05 PM	#23
Bruce Clark Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ocean Grove, Victoria Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,458	I too agree with the f16 version. The snake in focus with it's environment. I do however see merit in the crops and other subsequent treatment.

05-18-2013, 07:33 PM	#24
Zafar Iqbal Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,229	f2.8 works better for me. The f16 shot is too cluttered IMO.

05-19-2013, 06:28 AM	#25
daacon Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Alberta,Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 20,914	I am going for f16 that grass in the front too distracting at f2.8 and I am a professional , not a professional photographer by any means but a professional none the less ha!

05-19-2013, 07:55 AM	#26
slowpez Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Carolina, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 18,461	Tough one Norm but I have to go with the 2.8. The leaf is a bit distracting but I like how the snake seems to rise out of the ground. Although the body of the snake is OOF this adds to the effect and you can still tell it is part of the snake and pick out enough detail to satisfy the viewer. He is really a beautiful creature and looks like he just shed his old skin; he has that shiny glow they get after that process.

05-19-2013, 04:24 PM	#27
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451 Original Poster	Thanks susan, you made me look at the pictures again.....

05-19-2013, 06:52 PM	#28
Bob Harris Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Canon City, Colorado Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18,477	I've enjoyed reading the different opinions Norm, interesting for sure. I'll take it at 16 for this old guy.

05-19-2013, 07:34 PM	#29
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451 Original Poster	Originally posted by Bob Harris I've enjoyed reading the different opinions Norm, interesting for sure. I'll take it at 16 for this old guy. An interesting read for sure Bob.. I wonder if there's enough here for a Canada Council research grant. Seems like this info should be useful to someone somewhere. Maybe i can develop a whole personality test based on snake pictures.

05-27-2013, 07:10 AM	#30
Panteg Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Swansea , South Wales , UK Posts: 444	First one for me great shot,