Nature ƒ2.8 or ƒ 16, you be the judge

ƒ2.8 or ƒ 16, you be the judge · 03:15 PM

With all the stuff about narrow DoF, I just need to ask, which do you like better, ƒ2.8 or ƒ16. I'd run a poll but I can't remember how.

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You be the judge.

p38arover · 05-17-2013, 06:08 PM

Hmm, tough but I'll go f2.8

I think a shot at f4 might have been better than both - soft in the background but more of the snake in focus.

causey · 05-17-2013, 06:09 PM

It's great at f2.8; rather ordinary at f16 (except snakes are almost never ordinary subjects).

Julie · 05-17-2013, 06:15 PM

Both are very nice, but I think I prefer the f/2.8.

**patrick9** · 05-17-2013, 06:19 PM

My vote goes to the second one. I don't mind the OF background, I do however prefer the in focus snake . IMHO I think it works better for this shot . Nice snake shot by the way.

normhead · 05-17-2013, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by p38arover

Hmm, tough but I'll go f2.8

I think a shot at f4 might have been better than both - soft in the background but more of the snake in focus.

Originally posted by causey

It's great at f2.8; rather ordinary at f16 (except snakes are almost never ordinary subjects).

Originally posted by Julie

Both are very nice, but I think I prefer the f/2.8.

Thanks for the opinions, I really can't decide myself, I flip back and forth....

**jac** · 05-17-2013, 06:29 PM

I prefer f16, the whole sinuous set of pattern in focus.

DeadJohn · 05-17-2013, 06:46 PM

Both are good. I prefer f16 as currently composed.

That snake was an uncooperative model, posing with it's head almost behind the green leaf. In the f2.8 version I find the leaf more distracting than in the f16 one. The bokeh draws my attention away from snake towards leaf. Cropping away much of the top and right, shifting the leaf away from the center of the frame, might minimize the distraction. Or maybe slightly desaturate green. Those PP comments only apply to the f2.8 version.

What type of snake?

**boriscleto** · 05-17-2013, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by DeadJohn

What type of snake?

Eastern Garter Snake.

Kozlok · 05-17-2013, 07:35 PM

F8 was probably perfect. (LOL)

**arnold** · 05-17-2013, 07:53 PM

f16. I prefer the subject itself to be in focus.

audiobomber · 05-17-2013, 07:57 PM

Deep DOF for me, better with the whole snake in focus.

markl62 · 05-18-2013, 01:12 AM

I prefer the f16 also in this particular shot. It shows more of the snake in focus and in it's environment. If it was a shot framed mainly on the head (and perhpas face on) then f2.8 would most likely to be the better option.

Tanzer · 05-18-2013, 05:12 AM

Both are nice but between the two, I probably prefer the f/16. I find the background in the f/2.8 to be a little bit distracting; my eye keeps getting drawn to it, searching for another snake maybe hidden there. With different background elements, and/or a different subject, I might feel different.

Jonathan Mac · 05-18-2013, 05:44 AM

f/16 is better because the background is giving nasty bokeh at f/2.8.

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05-17-2013, 06:08 PM	#2
p38arover Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Western Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,084	Hmm, tough but I'll go f2.8 I think a shot at f4 might have been better than both - soft in the background but more of the snake in focus.

05-17-2013, 06:09 PM	#3
causey Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arlington, VA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,757	It's great at f2.8; rather ordinary at f16 (except snakes are almost never ordinary subjects).

05-17-2013, 06:15 PM	#4
Julie Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Illinois Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,069	Both are very nice, but I think I prefer the f/2.8.

05-17-2013, 06:19 PM	#5
patrick9 Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Murfreesboro Tennessee Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,458	My vote goes to the second one. I don't mind the OF background, I do however prefer the in focus snake . IMHO I think it works better for this shot . Nice snake shot by the way.

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normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,448 Original Poster	Originally posted by p38arover Hmm, tough but I'll go f2.8 I think a shot at f4 might have been better than both - soft in the background but more of the snake in focus. Originally posted by causey It's great at f2.8; rather ordinary at f16 (except snakes are almost never ordinary subjects). Originally posted by Julie Both are very nice, but I think I prefer the f/2.8. Thanks for the opinions, I really can't decide myself, I flip back and forth....

05-17-2013, 06:29 PM	#7
jac Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Clyde River, Nunavut, Canada Posts: 2,364	I prefer f16, the whole sinuous set of pattern in focus.

05-17-2013, 06:46 PM	#8
DeadJohn Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 4,833	Both are good. I prefer f16 as currently composed. That snake was an uncooperative model, posing with it's head almost behind the green leaf. In the f2.8 version I find the leaf more distracting than in the f16 one. The bokeh draws my attention away from snake towards leaf. Cropping away much of the top and right, shifting the leaf away from the center of the frame, might minimize the distraction. Or maybe slightly desaturate green. Those PP comments only apply to the f2.8 version. What type of snake?

05-17-2013, 07:04 PM	#9
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,473	Originally posted by DeadJohn What type of snake? Eastern Garter Snake.

05-17-2013, 07:35 PM	#10
Kozlok Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Albuquerque Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,148	F8 was probably perfect. (LOL)

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arnold Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,293	f16. I prefer the subject itself to be in focus.

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05-17-2013, 07:57 PM	#12
audiobomber Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sudbury, Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806	Deep DOF for me, better with the whole snake in focus.

05-18-2013, 01:12 AM	#13
markl62 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Brisbane Qld Aust Posts: 220	I prefer the f16 also in this particular shot. It shows more of the snake in focus and in it's environment. If it was a shot framed mainly on the head (and perhpas face on) then f2.8 would most likely to be the better option.

05-18-2013, 05:12 AM	#14
Tanzer Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Perrineville, NJ Posts: 1,375	Both are nice but between the two, I probably prefer the f/16. I find the background in the f/2.8 to be a little bit distracting; my eye keeps getting drawn to it, searching for another snake maybe hidden there. With different background elements, and/or a different subject, I might feel different.

05-18-2013, 05:44 AM	#15
Jonathan Mac Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 10,879	f/16 is better because the background is giving nasty bokeh at f/2.8.