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Cosina 100mm macro: images and mini-review
Posted By: rparmar, 03-23-2008, 07:55 PM

So, after buying a Vivitar (actually Cosina) 100mm macro from Youngster here on the forum I promised I would post some pictures. While I'm at it I'll give a mini-review of the lens.

This is my first time doing any serious work with a manual focus lens since film days 20 years ago. I found it rather difficult, especially as the small depth of field made focusing critical. This was true whether used as a macro or a telephoto. With my eyes I think I need the better viewfinder of the K10D/K20D and maybe an improved focus screen as well.

My first batch were done indoors with a tripod, throwing whatever I could under the macro scope. Using the built-in flash rendered too flat an image so I stuck with available light and ISO 200. Though I tried the 1:1 matched adapter, it seemed to diminish the quality slightly (maybe just my mind?) and didn't seem needed for what I was magnifying. I set the aperture for what I was trying to convey and the shutter took care of itself based on the varying sunlight.

Garlic at f/5.6 1/60s


Chili at f/13 1/6s


Seeds at f/11 1/3s


Dried flower at f/3.5 1/45s


I am happy enough with these but somehow get the impression that even at its sharpest the lens is a tad soft. Or maybe I am asking for too much. These photos are the best of a rather large bunch. Maybe someone here can tell me how they rate compared with what other lenses might do.

I liked the handling. A lot is made of the plastic feel of the lens but this did not bother me. In fact, the lightness was a positive boon, and the size of the barrel fit the body well. Focusing had a good feeling. The only thing that is rather junky is the aperture ring -- but I didn't use it. Another point to mention is that the lens is recessed so far inside the barrel that there is no need for a lens hood. This changes when using it as a macro, but in controlled environments there should be no need for a hood.

Yesterday I was out in Galway and used the lens as a telephoto. Now I'm a birder. None of these utilised a tripod so luckily there was decent sun.

Stereotypical unroasted duck at f/9.5 1/60s


Elegant gulls in flight at f/16 1/180s


Chains at f/16 1/125s


The very epitome of cafe at f/5.6 1/10s


I must say that looking over these shots I am happy, but there are so many that fell by the wayside. I would like to improve my hit ratio. Yes, I did try trap focusing but I don't think any of those shots were keepers. Why would that be, I wonder?

All helpful comments and criticisms welcome! (And thanks Youngster for a great transaction!)
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QuoteOriginally posted by Youngster:
In terms of the softness, it didn't show in your samples, but I think there may be several factors involved:
1. I think higher apertures are really necessary to compensate for the depth of field in most 3 dimensional objects (i.e. anything other than paper, coins and fabric).
Well, that's true. With the 3D objects I tried to select the best DOF for the subject, so that the structures were highlighted while unneeded detail was blurred artistically. For example, I have an almost identical garlic shot with greater DOF, but I prefer this one. That said, there were a great number of failed shots since the shallow DOF coupled with slightly off focus equaled failure. I think about one in five shots were good, but maybe half of this number was because of exposure and focus bracketing.

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Using the on board flash just doesn't cut it.
I recently bought a Sunpak Auto 422D for $23 that is winging its way across the ocean as we speak. I am going to get one of the eBay radio trigger sets so I can set it up off-camera easily. I don't think I'll be too limiting using a manual flash as most of the time it'll be in the studio -- my grandiose term for the kitchen!

QuoteOriginally posted by Youngster:
Some have mentioned that the Cosina 100mm macro's focus plane isn't quite as flat as the more expensive macro lenses.
You know, I was wondering about that. It could also simply be a matter of not having the plane of the camera exactly perpendicular to the subject. I find this extremely difficult to do and even a small variation will manifest a difference.

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I never used the lens as a telephoto much. In this case, I think the extra turns on the focus ring would be more of a disadvantage as it will take longer to focus exactly. However, you pictures came out quite well.
I focused to approximately the correct distance first and then limited my variations so that I never strayed too far from a certain focal distance. Sort of a mental focus limiter device. Chasing the gulls was a real exercise in patience, especially as it was freezing out. My hands were ice blocks afterwards which is why there is a cafe picture in the set! But I must say I am very happy with this result. I love the sleek look of the gulls, all moving in different directions, and how their air speeds can be extrapolated from the different amounts of blur. Maybe it's a commonplace shot, but I like the aeronautical ballet.

QuoteOriginally posted by Youngster:
It just goes to show, you don't need the most expensive equipment to take great pictures.
Amen to that. Expensive does not necessarily equate to good and vice versa. Though I don't think there are too many bargains in the Pentax world, demand for glass being what it is. I was very happy to pay the money for the 43mm limited but also happy to get the Cosina 100mm from you for a fraction of the price.

Eventually I might need a dedicated telephoto lens that's auto-focus and easier to use manually, likely at the 200mm mark. Any bargains there?
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No-one really posts much on these image threads, do they?
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They look great to me. I really like the garlic.

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nice photos rparmar! and you did a great job cropping them to the maximum effect. i just got a macro lens too and wish i had more time to experiment, sometimes the 50mm is a bit close on working distance tho to get real in so i wish maybe i had a 100mm

i think a lot of threads get pushed down quickly because everybody keeps on putting new photos up!
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QuoteOriginally posted by k100d Quote
nice photos rparmar! and you did a great job cropping them to the maximum effect. i just got a macro lens too and wish i had more time to experiment, sometimes the 50mm is a bit close on working distance tho to get real in so i wish maybe i had a 100mm

i think a lot of threads get pushed down quickly because everybody keeps on putting new photos up!
....well, guess we're a busy lot......anyway rparmar, some nice work there, never worked with that make lens......but have a vivitar 70-210 series 1 that does 1:1 macro, 3rd generation i believe.......once again nice images. Didn't i see that cafe in the s-curve thread ?
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QuoteOriginally posted by gpaual Quote
Didn't i see that cafe in the s-curve thread ?
Well spotted! I think some of the other interpretations are a bit too literal, eg. pictures of S-shaped objects. I wanted to find something I had done recently that was more true to the idea of an S-shaped eye trace pattern. I posted the image there after I had it here I think.

Thanks everyone for the encouragement. It really does help to get even a few words of response after posting so many images.

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I have come up with a focus method that seems to work better for me. I try my best focus and snap. Then I defocus completely and try a second focus. Snap. Then a third time.

Oddly the best result then seems to come from the middle shot.

Whatever works!
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