People Girl in a bar

Girl in a bar · **2 Likes**

Met this girl in a bar, she did not allow me to take photos of her saying she was not photogenic, but a bit later she wasn't looking so I took my chance! she liked the picture afterwards

**volley** · 10-26-2014, 10:31 PM

I don't think such a photo justifies to ignore a clear "no".
Regards
Norbert

**Hattifnatt** · 10-27-2014, 04:43 AM

The reason I chose to disregard the initial "no" was because her motivation was such she was not photogenic. It was not like a "you will not take my picture no matter what", but more like "no, I'm not photogenic/I'm not pretty" kinda denial. But I agree I might have walked a pretty thin line here and maybe even crossed it a bit, luckily for me it turned out fine.

yusuf · 10-27-2014, 04:54 AM

Nice shot!!

**RobA_Oz** · 10-27-2014, 05:49 AM

I rather like this photo. Part of the reason I like it is because it is anonymous, and therefore universal.

I think people are attempting to argue the rights and wrongs of candid portraits from a rigid and unconsidered viewpoint here. People are recognised by their faces, not their backs. This is the main reason for banks requiring people to remove helmets and the like when they enter, not to mention the current fusses over women wearing face-coverings in various situations. People mostly object to having their photo taken when they're not in control of how they look, although that's probably how they look most of the time. Genuine privacy fears are rare, but are based around the ability to identify someone by their face, not their rear aspect. I don't believe respect would have come into it in this instance, except that the photographer brought the subject's attention to the fact, and thereby created an obligation to consider the subject's wishes.

daacon · 10-27-2014, 08:09 AM

Reminds me a Journey Song we all know.

**Hattifnatt** · 11-07-2014, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by daacon

Reminds me a Journey Song we all know.

Which song?

gildedfool · 11-07-2014, 12:06 PM

But for the smartphone on the table, this photo could probably have been taken any time in the last 50-60 years. The PP gives it a sort of timelessness that really appeals to me. Nice work!

**Hattifnatt** · 11-07-2014, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by gildedfool

But for the smartphone on the table, this photo could probably have been taken any time in the last 50-60 years. The PP gives it a sort of timelessness that really appeals to me. Nice work!

Thank you... I've just now noticed that smartphone. I pretty much don't like it there but it's too late now.

philbaum · 11-07-2014, 12:22 PM

Great image. In my experience, its difficult to sell "art" to the general public if there is a recognizable face - this avoids that issue but still conveys mood, emotions, a common scene. Wondeful!

gildedfool · 11-07-2014, 12:23 PM

I don't think it (smartphone) takes anything away from the overall image. I'm just picky like that.

olegp · 11-07-2014, 02:05 PM

Yes!
Good-styled photo

robjmitchell · 11-07-2014, 06:45 PM

Quite lovely processing on a great photo. I'm glad she liked it.

**Scottnorwo** · 11-07-2014, 07:14 PM

Nice moody picture.

**Hattifnatt** · 11-15-2014, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by philbaum

Great image. In my experience, its difficult to sell "art" to the general public if there is a recognizable face - this avoids that issue but still conveys mood, emotions, a common scene. Wondeful!

Originally posted by olegp

Yes! Good-styled photo

Originally posted by robjmitchell

Quite lovely processing on a great photo. I'm glad she liked it.

Originally posted by Scottnorwo

Nice moody picture.

Thank you all.

**Kerrowdown** · 11-15-2014, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by Hattifnatt

I've just now noticed that smartphone. I pretty much don't like it there but it's too late now

I've just seen it too as a result of this post, but hey it could disappear in a heart beat in PP if you so desired.

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10-26-2014, 10:31 PM	#16
volley Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Springe Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,693	I don't think such a photo justifies to ignore a clear "no". Regards Norbert

10-27-2014, 04:43 AM	#17
Hattifnatt Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Bucharest Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,625 Original Poster	The reason I chose to disregard the initial "no" was because her motivation was such she was not photogenic. It was not like a "you will not take my picture no matter what", but more like "no, I'm not photogenic/I'm not pretty" kinda denial. But I agree I might have walked a pretty thin line here and maybe even crossed it a bit, luckily for me it turned out fine.

10-27-2014, 04:54 AM	#18
yusuf Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Palo Alto, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,497	Nice shot!!

10-27-2014, 05:49 AM	#19
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,191	I rather like this photo. Part of the reason I like it is because it is anonymous, and therefore universal. I think people are attempting to argue the rights and wrongs of candid portraits from a rigid and unconsidered viewpoint here. People are recognised by their faces, not their backs. This is the main reason for banks requiring people to remove helmets and the like when they enter, not to mention the current fusses over women wearing face-coverings in various situations. People mostly object to having their photo taken when they're not in control of how they look, although that's probably how they look most of the time. Genuine privacy fears are rare, but are based around the ability to identify someone by their face, not their rear aspect. I don't believe respect would have come into it in this instance, except that the photographer brought the subject's attention to the fact, and thereby created an obligation to consider the subject's wishes.

10-27-2014, 08:09 AM	#20
daacon Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Alberta,Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 20,914	Reminds me a Journey Song we all know.

11-07-2014, 11:58 AM	#21
Hattifnatt Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Bucharest Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,625 Original Poster	Originally posted by daacon Reminds me a Journey Song we all know. Which song?

11-07-2014, 12:06 PM	#22
gildedfool Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 315	But for the smartphone on the table, this photo could probably have been taken any time in the last 50-60 years. The PP gives it a sort of timelessness that really appeals to me. Nice work!

11-07-2014, 12:16 PM	#23
Hattifnatt Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Bucharest Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,625 Original Poster	Originally posted by gildedfool But for the smartphone on the table, this photo could probably have been taken any time in the last 50-60 years. The PP gives it a sort of timelessness that really appeals to me. Nice work! Thank you... I've just now noticed that smartphone. I pretty much don't like it there but it's too late now.

11-07-2014, 12:22 PM	#24
philbaum Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Port Townsend, Washington State, USA Posts: 3,659	Great image. In my experience, its difficult to sell "art" to the general public if there is a recognizable face - this avoids that issue but still conveys mood, emotions, a common scene. Wondeful!

11-07-2014, 12:23 PM	#25
gildedfool Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 315	I don't think it (smartphone) takes anything away from the overall image. I'm just picky like that.

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11-07-2014, 02:05 PM	#26
olegp Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Togliatti, Russia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 920	Yes! Good-styled photo

11-07-2014, 06:45 PM	#27
robjmitchell Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne Aus Posts: 1,776	Quite lovely processing on a great photo. I'm glad she liked it.

11-07-2014, 07:14 PM	#28
Scottnorwo Millionth Poster! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Stafford, New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,086	Nice moody picture.

11-15-2014, 04:48 PM	#29
Hattifnatt Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Bucharest Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,625 Original Poster	Originally posted by philbaum Great image. In my experience, its difficult to sell "art" to the general public if there is a recognizable face - this avoids that issue but still conveys mood, emotions, a common scene. Wondeful! Originally posted by olegp Yes! Good-styled photo Originally posted by robjmitchell Quite lovely processing on a great photo. I'm glad she liked it. Originally posted by Scottnorwo Nice moody picture. Thank you all.

11-15-2014, 04:54 PM	#30
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,804	Originally posted by Hattifnatt I've just now noticed that smartphone. I pretty much don't like it there but it's too late now I've just seen it too as a result of this post, but hey it could disappear in a heart beat in PP if you so desired.