Nature Fish Hawks ll

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More Osprey hunting.

**luftfluss** · 08-02-2015, 08:39 PM

Lookin' good.

What's that in the upper-right of pic #2?

plantej · 08-02-2015, 09:03 PM

It's a boat ramp. Distracting but I left it in.

**Heinrich Lohmann** · 08-02-2015, 09:56 PM

That are some very nice images, love the last one.

plantej · 08-03-2015, 05:19 AM

Thanks. That lens has a huge learning curve. I'm going to have to dive into the technical aspect more though. At 450mm it doesn't like fast shutters and small apts. I read in the product review that this is so.

**luftfluss** · 08-03-2015, 07:23 AM

Originally posted by plantej

Thanks. That lens has a huge learning curve. I'm going to have to dive into the technical aspect more though. At 450mm it doesn't like fast shutters and small apts. I read in the product review that this is so.

I took a peek at the review, and the reviewer doesn't state that the lens performs poorly at the largest aperture, just that stopping down a bit was better. I didn't see anything about the lens not liking fast shutters - this seems counter-intuitive to me.

plantej · 08-03-2015, 04:44 PM

Yes my memory needs calibrating as you eloquently pointed out. See there? I need to revisit that review. I lack the technical aspect of all this new equipment. Never blame the equipment is a good MO and not my intention at all. It's the learning curve I emphasized that is at stake. But as I reviewed the review I see that I may be expecting more than necessary. The vulture shot is no more detailed than some of my results. The dove is another story. I just need a spray bottle.

Also the lighting is key. This too stands out...

"In all likelihood, the 150-450mm's optical performance won't be the limiting factor when it comes to the sharpness if of your photos. Instead, the stability of your tripod and/or your shooting technique will be put to the test. Since you might often need to use higher ISOs to be able to use sufficiently fast shutter speed, we strongly recommend sticking to RAW mode at all times. We were not satisfied with the level of detail in out-of-camera JPEGs from the K-3 when using this lens at ISO 400 and 800, as the noise reduction kicked in and blurred fine details."

There is a focus learning curve too. It's a tricky lens and I will highly anticipate any others that own this lens to produce exceptional birding photos as in the dove at 450mm. I love the lens and will give it my all to master it and then judge it. My skills must improve over some time to be qualified to say too. Maybe it is a tele shooting senerio in general. Before this I've only owned a 200. Different world indeed.

**Kerrowdown** · 08-04-2015, 07:59 AM

Some fine imagery going on here and yes big lenses do need a bit more "respect" in their usage.

8540tomg · 08-04-2015, 02:25 PM

Great series.

I especially like number 2

Tom G

plantej · 08-04-2015, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by 8540tomg

Great series.

I especially like number 2

Tom G

Cool glad you like it.

**Scorpio71GR** · 08-04-2015, 03:33 PM

Really nice images. I agree, with big lenses come big learning curves. I have the Sigma (Bigma ) 50-500 and I am definitely still in learning curve phase. After 300mm e everything seems to change.

waterfall · 08-04-2015, 03:39 PM

OMG, incredible captures.

plantej · 08-05-2015, 12:49 PM

Thank you.

---------- Post added 08-05-15 at 12:51 PM ----------

Originally posted by Kerrowdown

Some fine imagery going on here and yes big lenses do need a bit more "respect" in their usage.

For sure. Thanks for that.

---------- Post added 08-05-15 at 12:54 PM ----------

I really appreciate the input from all. The next ones will have fish locked in talons or a dive. Matter of time.

---------- Post added 08-05-15 at 12:59 PM ----------

Originally posted by Scorpio71GR

Really nice images. I agree, with big lenses come big learning curves. I have the Sigma (Bigma ) 50-500 and I am definitely still in learning curve phase. After 300mm e everything seems to change.

Thanks for your input. I definitely need more time with it. It has tested my patience. Love the challenge!

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08-03-2015, 07:23 AM	#6
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,626	Originally posted by plantej Thanks. That lens has a huge learning curve. I'm going to have to dive into the technical aspect more though. At 450mm it doesn't like fast shutters and small apts. I read in the product review that this is so. I took a peek at the review, and the reviewer doesn't state that the lens performs poorly at the largest aperture, just that stopping down a bit was better. I didn't see anything about the lens not liking fast shutters - this seems counter-intuitive to me. Last edited by luftfluss; 08-03-2015 at 07:58 AM.

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08-02-2015, 08:39 PM	#2
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,626	Lookin' good. What's that in the upper-right of pic #2?

08-02-2015, 09:03 PM	#3
plantej Veteran Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Pacific Northwest USA Photos: Albums Posts: 583 Original Poster	It's a boat ramp. Distracting but I left it in.

08-02-2015, 09:56 PM	#4
Heinrich Lohmann Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Airdrie, Alberta Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,097	That are some very nice images, love the last one.

08-03-2015, 05:19 AM	#5
plantej Veteran Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Pacific Northwest USA Photos: Albums Posts: 583 Original Poster	Thanks. That lens has a huge learning curve. I'm going to have to dive into the technical aspect more though. At 450mm it doesn't like fast shutters and small apts. I read in the product review that this is so.

08-03-2015, 04:44 PM	#7
plantej Veteran Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Pacific Northwest USA Photos: Albums Posts: 583 Original Poster	Yes my memory needs calibrating as you eloquently pointed out. See there? I need to revisit that review. I lack the technical aspect of all this new equipment. Never blame the equipment is a good MO and not my intention at all. It's the learning curve I emphasized that is at stake. But as I reviewed the review I see that I may be expecting more than necessary. The vulture shot is no more detailed than some of my results. The dove is another story. I just need a spray bottle. Also the lighting is key. This too stands out... "In all likelihood, the 150-450mm's optical performance won't be the limiting factor when it comes to the sharpness if of your photos. Instead, the stability of your tripod and/or your shooting technique will be put to the test. Since you might often need to use higher ISOs to be able to use sufficiently fast shutter speed, we strongly recommend sticking to RAW mode at all times. We were not satisfied with the level of detail in out-of-camera JPEGs from the K-3 when using this lens at ISO 400 and 800, as the noise reduction kicked in and blurred fine details." There is a focus learning curve too. It's a tricky lens and I will highly anticipate any others that own this lens to produce exceptional birding photos as in the dove at 450mm. I love the lens and will give it my all to master it and then judge it. My skills must improve over some time to be qualified to say too. Maybe it is a tele shooting senerio in general. Before this I've only owned a 200. Different world indeed.

08-04-2015, 07:59 AM	#8
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,835	Some fine imagery going on here and yes big lenses do need a bit more "respect" in their usage.

08-04-2015, 02:25 PM	#9
8540tomg Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Waterloo, Ontario Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,461	Great series. I especially like number 2 Tom G

08-04-2015, 02:57 PM	#10
plantej Veteran Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Pacific Northwest USA Photos: Albums Posts: 583 Original Poster	Originally posted by 8540tomg Great series. I especially like number 2 Tom G Cool glad you like it.

08-04-2015, 03:33 PM	#11
Scorpio71GR Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Michigan Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,014	Really nice images. I agree, with big lenses come big learning curves. I have the Sigma (Bigma ) 50-500 and I am definitely still in learning curve phase. After 300mm e everything seems to change.

08-04-2015, 03:39 PM	#12
waterfall Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Northern Minnesota Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,812	OMG, incredible captures.

08-05-2015, 12:49 PM	#13
plantej Veteran Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Pacific Northwest USA Photos: Albums Posts: 583 Original Poster	Thank you. ---------- Post added 08-05-15 at 12:51 PM ---------- Originally posted by Kerrowdown Some fine imagery going on here and yes big lenses do need a bit more "respect" in their usage. For sure. Thanks for that. ---------- Post added 08-05-15 at 12:54 PM ---------- I really appreciate the input from all. The next ones will have fish locked in talons or a dive. Matter of time. ---------- Post added 08-05-15 at 12:59 PM ---------- Originally posted by Scorpio71GR Really nice images. I agree, with big lenses come big learning curves. I have the Sigma (Bigma ) 50-500 and I am definitely still in learning curve phase. After 300mm e everything seems to change. Thanks for your input. I definitely need more time with it. It has tested my patience. Love the challenge!