Owl and Roadrunner

Owl and Roadrunner · 05:40 PM

These are my first real attempts at bird photography. They were not taken in the wild and are not even in the same league as some of the more accomplished bird photographers on this forum but a guy's got to start somewhere, right?

KrisK10D · 07-08-2008, 01:24 AM

Not too foul, WD

They look a little soft but. And I never knew a Roadrunner looked like that. Watching too many cartoons as a kid i spose

ftpaddict · 07-08-2008, 01:44 AM

Beep beep!

Where's the coyote?

Workingdog · 07-08-2008, 04:30 AM

Originally posted by KrisK10D

Not too foul, WD

They look a little soft but. And I never knew a Roadrunner looked like that. Watching too many cartoons as a kid i spose

Yes, I've noticed softness sometimes when I post here. They are much sharper when viewed on my computer. Some possibilities: My Tamron 18-250 is just not as sharp as a prime especially wide open, something in the mechanics of posting here is causing loss of sharpness, maybe I'm not sharpening enough in post processing. Any other ideas?

atupdate · 07-08-2008, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by Workingdog

Yes, I've noticed softness sometimes when I post here. They are much sharper when viewed on my computer. Some possibilities: My Tamron 18-250 is just not as sharp as a prime especially wide open, something in the mechanics of posting here is causing loss of sharpness, maybe I'm not sharpening enough in post processing. Any other ideas?

Do you sharpen after you downsize for posting? If not, you might want to try a little USM with radius = 0.75 and threshold (strength) around 75

Tim

Workingdog · 07-08-2008, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by atupdate

Do you sharpen after you downsize for posting? If not, you might want to try a little USM with radius = 0.75 and threshold (strength) around 75

Tim

Tim,

I sharpen at full resolution and then resize for posting. In PP I usually USM with radius of 0.50 and strength of only 30. Strength of 75, huh? Can you explain why to resize first and then sharpen? Appreciate your help.

WD

KrisK10D · 07-10-2008, 06:43 AM

When you resize you're changing the resolution of the image. Sharpening afterwards will give ou back some of the detail you loose.

daacon · 07-10-2008, 08:26 AM

A great start - I like em.

**Heinrich Lohmann** · 07-10-2008, 10:12 PM

Really nice photos but as others have said allready a little on the soft side. Sharpening should be done as the very last step after all other processing is completed. As a rule I start with 0.6 radius and around 30% but it depends on the individual image, if need be go higher in the % but if you see halos you've gone too far

Workingdog · 07-12-2008, 08:39 AM

Thanks everyone for the tip to sharpen after resizing. It makes a huge difference. I always sharpen last in my postprocessing but for some reason I just didn't count the resizing for this forum to be a step.

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07-08-2008, 01:24 AM	#2
KrisK10D Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,274	Not too foul, WD They look a little soft but. And I never knew a Roadrunner looked like that. Watching too many cartoons as a kid i spose

07-08-2008, 01:44 AM	#3
ftpaddict Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Yurp Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,666	Beep beep! Where's the coyote?

07-08-2008, 04:30 AM	#4
Workingdog Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: York, PA Photos: Gallery Posts: 736 Original Poster	Originally posted by KrisK10D Not too foul, WD They look a little soft but. And I never knew a Roadrunner looked like that. Watching too many cartoons as a kid i spose Yes, I've noticed softness sometimes when I post here. They are much sharper when viewed on my computer. Some possibilities: My Tamron 18-250 is just not as sharp as a prime especially wide open, something in the mechanics of posting here is causing loss of sharpness, maybe I'm not sharpening enough in post processing. Any other ideas?

07-08-2008, 09:11 AM	#5
atupdate Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dayton, OH Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,724	Originally posted by Workingdog Yes, I've noticed softness sometimes when I post here. They are much sharper when viewed on my computer. Some possibilities: My Tamron 18-250 is just not as sharp as a prime especially wide open, something in the mechanics of posting here is causing loss of sharpness, maybe I'm not sharpening enough in post processing. Any other ideas? Do you sharpen after you downsize for posting? If not, you might want to try a little USM with radius = 0.75 and threshold (strength) around 75 Tim

07-08-2008, 12:28 PM	#6
Workingdog Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: York, PA Photos: Gallery Posts: 736 Original Poster	Originally posted by atupdate Do you sharpen after you downsize for posting? If not, you might want to try a little USM with radius = 0.75 and threshold (strength) around 75 Tim Tim, I sharpen at full resolution and then resize for posting. In PP I usually USM with radius of 0.50 and strength of only 30. Strength of 75, huh? Can you explain why to resize first and then sharpen? Appreciate your help. WD

07-10-2008, 06:43 AM	#7
KrisK10D Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,274	When you resize you're changing the resolution of the image. Sharpening afterwards will give ou back some of the detail you loose.

07-10-2008, 08:26 AM	#8
daacon Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Alberta,Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 20,914	A great start - I like em.

07-10-2008, 10:12 PM	#9
Heinrich Lohmann Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Airdrie, Alberta Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,097	Really nice photos but as others have said allready a little on the soft side. Sharpening should be done as the very last step after all other processing is completed. As a rule I start with 0.6 radius and around 30% but it depends on the individual image, if need be go higher in the % but if you see halos you've gone too far

07-12-2008, 08:39 AM	#10
Workingdog Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: York, PA Photos: Gallery Posts: 736 Original Poster	Thanks everyone for the tip to sharpen after resizing. It makes a huge difference. I always sharpen last in my postprocessing but for some reason I just didn't count the resizing for this forum to be a step.