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cheerleading cuties · 05:43 PM

thoughts and comments on if this photo works for you or not much appreciated!

cheers

randy

xecutech · 02-14-2007, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by slipchuck

thoughts and comments on if this photo works for you or not much appreciated!

cheers

randy

Nope, doesn't work for me, too young! Ok, still being silly from the womens volleyball pics earlier....

Alvin · 02-14-2007, 06:54 PM

Saw you post this on the games and challenges. See my comment there.

clarenceclose · 02-14-2007, 08:13 PM

Randy, Played with some paper on the screen to see if it would crop.
The photo almost has too much going on and there is no focal point.
You might want to consider a square crop...take out the girl on the left (nose picking) and just behind the pony tail of the 5th girl from the left (eliminating nail biter) putting 4 girls into the shot and maybe crop off the top a bit to minimize some of the background distractions. Use 'image/adjustments/replace color' to change that intense green shirt in the background to something more subdued and not so eye drawing.
My 2 cents.

slip · 02-14-2007, 08:47 PM

Originally posted by clarenceclose

Randy, Played with some paper on the screen to see if it would crop.
The photo almost has too much going on and there is no focal point.
You might want to consider a square crop...take out the girl on the left (nose picking) and just behind the pony tail of the 5th girl from the left (eliminating nail biter) putting 4 girls into the shot and maybe crop off the top a bit to minimize some of the background distractions. Use 'image/adjustments/replace color' to change that intense green shirt in the background to something more subdued and not so eye drawing.
My 2 cents.

Hi clearence and thanks for your input. No doubt the background should be blurrier to min the distractions.
As far as the green shirt goes, there must be a difference in our monitors as the green is not that intense at all on my monitor. a different crop may work well too.

below is why I think it works, please let me know if it makes sense to you (also, all the girls face direction follow a pattern... almost symmetrical...then the girl looking back breaks this.... putting some "tension" into the symmetrics.

oh boy, I hope I make sense.

randy

Alvin · 02-14-2007, 09:09 PM

I was thinking of something like this. But this would take a lot out of the original photo. Two actions in Picasa, crop and selective focus.

slip · 02-14-2007, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by Alvin

I was thinking of something like this. But this would take a lot out of the original photo. Two actions in Picasa, crop and selective focus.

thanks alvin
not a bad idea, either!. the 10mp is a big bonus when doing such cropping.

cheers and thanks again.

randy

GavinIvey · 02-14-2007, 09:15 PM

Good job on the white balance. Gymnasium's lighting does crazy things haha. I agree with blurring the background just a tad bit and a little bit of cropping.

Alvin · 02-14-2007, 09:18 PM

No problem. Hmm...10MP tempting. Aw, man, look at myself

Kitanis · 02-15-2007, 05:33 AM

Nice photo and the eye dose follow to central girl looking behind the rest.. very natural

clarenceclose · 02-15-2007, 08:54 AM

Randy,
The girl looking back is half a face so I never considered this as part of the dynamics. I am still not sure if I follow the two direction curves but then different minds see different things in photos. We have all noticed this based upon comments on various photos.

I like the crop and treatment Alvin did. Really put the focus on a definite subject and action.

**NaClH2O** · 02-15-2007, 10:51 AM

Hi Randy, I agree with Clarence that a crop is in order but not the one he suggested. I'd take out most of the crowd above the girls completely, I agree with Clarence that the nose picker has got to go, but I'd leave the nail biter in. It gives the impression of intense action going on off screen. But I also get rid of the partial cheerleader at the far right. That might leave a long narrow pano-like photo, but I think it might be effective. If you want more of a 2X3 feel, include the rest of the crowd but blur them bigtime. Like you I don't find the green shirt to be distractive.

NaCl(my $.05 and worth all of that)H2O

clarenceclose · 02-15-2007, 02:56 PM

Did you see that? Salty put in 3 cent more than me. I'll be danged!

Well I like your idea probably better than I like my own crop idea.

If we are going to do some major fooling around I would clone out the nose picker, if possible, to keep as much of the young lady's leg and hand next to her in the photo, but that would be a bit of work to get to come off correct.

2 more cents worth and a penny for your thoughts.

jthommo · 02-15-2007, 03:02 PM

I'd just crop out the little girl on the right and lower the top to get rid of the crowd a bit. Both the nose picker and nail biter work for me.

Jonas B · 02-15-2007, 04:25 PM

As the nose picker really isn't picking her nose she is allright. Isn't it a nervous gesture? Maybe one can make the nail on that finger get a little small bit more visible and it will work fine also for the well raised. She and the nailbiter adds to the feeling. Crop somehow and print it bigger.

1 cent only I'm afraid

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02-14-2007, 09:09 PM	#6
Alvin Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,530	I was thinking of something like this. But this would take a lot out of the original photo. Two actions in Picasa, crop and selective focus. Attached Images

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02-14-2007, 06:33 PM	#2
xecutech Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Nashville Photos: Gallery Posts: 223	Originally posted by slipchuck thoughts and comments on if this photo works for you or not much appreciated! cheers randy Nope, doesn't work for me, too young! Ok, still being silly from the womens volleyball pics earlier....

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Alvin Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,530	Saw you post this on the games and challenges. See my comment there.

02-14-2007, 08:13 PM	#4
clarenceclose Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pocatello, Idaho Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,517	Randy, Played with some paper on the screen to see if it would crop. The photo almost has too much going on and there is no focal point. You might want to consider a square crop...take out the girl on the left (nose picking) and just behind the pony tail of the 5th girl from the left (eliminating nail biter) putting 4 girls into the shot and maybe crop off the top a bit to minimize some of the background distractions. Use 'image/adjustments/replace color' to change that intense green shirt in the background to something more subdued and not so eye drawing. My 2 cents.

02-14-2007, 08:47 PM	#5
slip Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 2 hours north of toronto ontario canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,537 Original Poster	Originally posted by clarenceclose Randy, Played with some paper on the screen to see if it would crop. The photo almost has too much going on and there is no focal point. You might want to consider a square crop...take out the girl on the left (nose picking) and just behind the pony tail of the 5th girl from the left (eliminating nail biter) putting 4 girls into the shot and maybe crop off the top a bit to minimize some of the background distractions. Use 'image/adjustments/replace color' to change that intense green shirt in the background to something more subdued and not so eye drawing. My 2 cents. Hi clearence and thanks for your input. No doubt the background should be blurrier to min the distractions. As far as the green shirt goes, there must be a difference in our monitors as the green is not that intense at all on my monitor. a different crop may work well too. below is why I think it works, please let me know if it makes sense to you (also, all the girls face direction follow a pattern... almost symmetrical...then the girl looking back breaks this.... putting some "tension" into the symmetrics. oh boy, I hope I make sense. randy

02-14-2007, 09:14 PM	#7
slip Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 2 hours north of toronto ontario canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,537 Original Poster	Originally posted by Alvin I was thinking of something like this. But this would take a lot out of the original photo. Two actions in Picasa, crop and selective focus. thanks alvin not a bad idea, either!. the 10mp is a big bonus when doing such cropping. cheers and thanks again. randy

02-14-2007, 09:15 PM	#8
GavinIvey Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anderson, SC Photos: Gallery Posts: 47	Good job on the white balance. Gymnasium's lighting does crazy things haha. I agree with blurring the background just a tad bit and a little bit of cropping.

02-14-2007, 09:18 PM	#9
Alvin Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,530	No problem. Hmm...10MP tempting. Aw, man, look at myself

02-15-2007, 05:33 AM	#10
Kitanis Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Rapid City, SD Photos: Gallery Posts: 138	Nice photo and the eye dose follow to central girl looking behind the rest.. very natural

02-15-2007, 08:54 AM	#11
clarenceclose Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pocatello, Idaho Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,517	Randy, The girl looking back is half a face so I never considered this as part of the dynamics. I am still not sure if I follow the two direction curves but then different minds see different things in photos. We have all noticed this based upon comments on various photos. I like the crop and treatment Alvin did. Really put the focus on a definite subject and action.

02-15-2007, 10:51 AM	#12
NaClH2O Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bronx NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,633	Hi Randy, I agree with Clarence that a crop is in order but not the one he suggested. I'd take out most of the crowd above the girls completely, I agree with Clarence that the nose picker has got to go, but I'd leave the nail biter in. It gives the impression of intense action going on off screen. But I also get rid of the partial cheerleader at the far right. That might leave a long narrow pano-like photo, but I think it might be effective. If you want more of a 2X3 feel, include the rest of the crowd but blur them bigtime. Like you I don't find the green shirt to be distractive. NaCl(my $.05 and worth all of that)H2O

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02-15-2007, 02:56 PM	#13
clarenceclose Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pocatello, Idaho Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,517	Did you see that? Salty put in 3 cent more than me. I'll be danged! Well I like your idea probably better than I like my own crop idea. If we are going to do some major fooling around I would clone out the nose picker, if possible, to keep as much of the young lady's leg and hand next to her in the photo, but that would be a bit of work to get to come off correct. 2 more cents worth and a penny for your thoughts.

02-15-2007, 03:02 PM	#14
jthommo Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canberra, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 339	I'd just crop out the little girl on the right and lower the top to get rid of the crowd a bit. Both the nose picker and nail biter work for me.

02-15-2007, 04:25 PM	#15
Jonas B Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Göteborg, Sweden Posts: 810	As the nose picker really isn't picking her nose she is allright. Isn't it a nervous gesture? Maybe one can make the nail on that finger get a little small bit more visible and it will work fine also for the well raised. She and the nailbiter adds to the feeling. Crop somehow and print it bigger. 1 cent only I'm afraid