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Today's bird shots
Posted By: Adam, 02-17-2007, 06:16 PM

I've never really done bird shots, but I had the chance when shooting landscapes today and I gave it a try! All the photos were taken with the FA* 80-200mm. I won't post the EXIF data since they're just snapshots, but I managed to hand-hold the lens

BTW, I came accross a copy of this gem on eBay today







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02-17-2007, 08:03 PM   #2
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Adam, they are great shots. The colour is definitely rich. The 2nd pic could have been sharper (never mind about my whining after a marathon work shift). You make me so jealous of your new Fa* 80-200! I can only dream of owning Da* 50-135 instead (maybe this is too short the reach)

p.s. Mike, are you thinking of selling your second copy at all?

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The sharpness was really hard to control because of the lens's weight, but I still think the shot came out well composition-wise! These birds kept on running away from me, so it was tough

I got my copy from Stan (from Stan's photo site), and you could consider me damn lucky for sniffing out the offer. I had contacted Mike earlier, but he wouldn't part with his. I almost consider 200mm too short for the purpose, but keep in mind that 50-135mm on digital roughly corresponds to 80-200mm on film.

Here's the eBay listing I saw: eBay: SMC Pentax FA Pro 80-200 2.8 IF ED RARE LENS (item 120087901805 end time Feb-20-07 20:41:30 PST)

Pretty scary...

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The 1st shot has that fantastic colour rendition in the backdrop - great composition

QuoteOriginally posted by Mo Quote
These birds kept on running away from me, so it was tough
That is the whole fun of birding though ...

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This is great stuff. Thanks for this news. I am dreaming of getting this lens for some time since Lance and Mike kept posting their shots with images sharp like razor and bokeh rich as cream crop.

Da*50-135 might have been great for a BBQ part snap shots or wedding reception photos. I doubt Super sonic motor is that necessary for this kind of focal length range. I also think Da*16-50 really does not need Super sonic motor either. Da*70-250 would definitely need SSM but it is a bit too dark...

p.s. why does pentax have all these funny focal lengths for primes?? Like Fa 43 mm ltd or Fa 77mm ltd or Da 40mm or Da 21mm Funny phenomenon

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This is great stuff. Thanks for this news. I am dreaming of getting this lens for some time since Lance and Mike kept posting their shots with images sharp like razor and bokeh rich as cream crop.

Da*50-135 might have been great for a BBQ part snap shots or wedding reception photos. I doubt Super sonic motor is that necessary for this kind of focal length range. I also think Da*16-50 really does not need Super sonic motor either. Da*70-250 would definitely need SSM but it is a bit too dark...
I think that the whole SSM thing is a marketing stunt to make Canon users say "Ooh, Pentax finally incorporated the 'right' type of AF." After all, it's not nearly as useful as power zoom (which the K10D supports, lol), and it still adds weight to the lens.

The DA* 60-250 is has very strange zoom range, just like most of the current lenses. It'll be the first DA tele to go past 200mm, but I'm still not getting why Pentax just can't continue the *better* FA series.

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p.s. why does pentax have all these funny focal lengths for primes?? Like Fa 43 mm ltd or Fa 77mm ltd or Da 40mm or Da 21mm Funny phenomenon
The FA limiteds are supposed to stand out, so I'm guessing Pentax chose these strange focal lengths to make them more interesting.

I can understand that Pentax decided to re-release the 40mm pancake, but I don't know about the others. They should have made them a bit larger and a bit faster. Or, they could just continue producing the great FA20/2.8...

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These wouldn't be snap shots for me! I'd have to work hard to accomplish these images. Ah, so much to learn an so little time. ;-) Nice shots Mo.
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I think these are well done. good sharpness too!
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Well, Mo, I think I'll agree with LaRee, but I guess I'll get there some day. I especially like the closeup of the heron. Great shot

NaCl(I'd be ready to frame shots you call "snaps" )H2O

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Wow! Those birds look great!
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Well, Mo, I think I'll agree with LaRee, but I guess I'll get there some day. I especially like the closeup of the heron. Great shot

NaCl(I'd be ready to frame shots you call "snaps" )H2O
Thanks! I'll try to take a few more tomorrow, and I'll be bringing bread so that the ducks won't run away

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As promised, I gave birding another shot today, but I decided to use my [more compact] A* 200 instead of the FA* 80-200. To my disappointment, more than half of the shots were out of focus, and only this one was worth posting.

Lesson learned: never use MF for action photography!


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QuoteOriginally posted by Mo Quote
The sharpness was really hard to control because of the lens's weight, but I still think the shot came out well composition-wise! These birds kept on running away from me, so it was tough

I got my copy from Stan (from Stan's photo site), and you could consider me damn lucky for sniffing out the offer. I had contacted Mike earlier, but he wouldn't part with his. I almost consider 200mm too short for the purpose, but keep in mind that 50-135mm on digital roughly corresponds to 80-200mm on film.

Here's the eBay listing I saw: eBay: SMC Pentax FA Pro 80-200 2.8 IF ED RARE LENS (item 120087901805 end time Feb-20-07 20:41:30 PST)

Pretty scary...
Scary's not the word; $1375 and reserve still not met.
(I hope you didn't spoil somebody's auction.)
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Scary's not the word; $1375 and reserve still not met.
(I hope you didn't spoil somebody's auction.)
Pity that the seller does not allow Australian bidders at all.

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I still don't get why sellers do that...they should be well aware that they're just cutting the potential selling price.

Well, it looks like the lens sold for $2k. I'm proud to say that I got mine for less than that

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these are all wonderful shots. herons make great subjects because they're so large, bright, and generally less skittish. you did a wonderful job with the captures.
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